Confirmed Signing with Link: [CHI] F Jason Dickinson signs extension with the Blackhawks (2 years, $4.25M AAV)

[FlyguyOX]

There's no way these obvious just-to-hit-the-cap-floor overpayments will be used in serious negotiations with other UFA, right?

This is just laughable between this and foligno. Not to mention Athanasaiou this past offseason.

Every borderline replacement level bottom 6 guy gonna be asking for 4+ AAV now lmao

 

[Teemu]

There's no way these obvious just-to-hit-the-cap-floor overpayments will be used in serious negotiations with other UFA, right?

This is just laughable between this and foligno. Not to mention Athanasaiou this past offseason.

Every borderline replacement level bottom 6 guy gonna be asking for 4+ AAV now lmao

Don't forget the cap is spiking this year

 

[FlyguyOX]

Don't forget the cap is spiking this year

And the top of lineup guys keep capturing higher % of the cap. And young players are now being pre-emptively signed to those contracts, too.

So the bottom of the lineup will keep getting squeezed on most serious teams, meanwhile blackhawks keep going leeroy jenkins on signings.

 

[kmwtrucks]

probably top six players get paid more AAV when they hit UFA. Bottom 6 less. The hawks
It was all about term. And guys that play hard and are good examples for the younger players. You don’t want the young guys to get too discouraged. You need a good voice on the ice and in the locker.

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

And the top of lineup guys keep capturing higher % of the cap. And young players are now being pre-emptively signed to those contracts, too.

So the bottom of the lineup will keep getting squeezed on most serious teams, meanwhile blackhawks keep going leeroy jenkins on signings.

More about supply and demand. If "just a guy" wants $4M then tell him to go see if the Hawks are still signing folks.

UFA contracts don't set a precedence IMO. It's all about what a GM is willing to pay a particular guy. If Davidson overpays Perry - it doesn't mean that someone else has to replicate the mistake now that he's available. If Perry still thinks he worth $4M, then Treliving would tell him good luck. If Treliving has $1.5M available - it's up to Perry if he's willing to play for that in Toronto.

 

[MrHeiskanen]

That's a lot.

 

[Northernhawk]

What a trade that GM Davidson pulled off the beginning of last season, Riley Stillman to VAN for Dickinson AND a 2024 2nd, top 65 pick…wow!

 

[Nucker101]

Wow, good for him. I know he had played through a wrist injury with the Canucks, but man he looked allergic to offense here so good on him to have this type of season during a contract year.

 

[The Red Line]

That AAV is wild but I get it from the Hawks standpoint and shouldn't cause a problem.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Between this and Foligno, Jesus Christ Chicago.

I understand you have to use up cap space but WTF.

Agents are going to love it.

Players are going to love it.

GMs are going to hate it.

 

[Drumman44]

Between this and Foligno, Jesus Christ Chicago.

I understand you have to use up cap space but WTF.

Agents are going to love it.

Players are going to love it.

GMs are going to hate it.

Kyle Davidson is very very very aware of the salary cap. He watched in horror as Stan Bowman mismanaged it for many years

 

[No Fun Shogun]

Great guy, solid player, and even if an overpay his contract ends before we need to worry about cap space.

All good.

Seriously, being a bad team stinks, but not having to worry about cap implications of contracts is at least a silver lining.

 

[innitfam]

Nice job getting the bag Jason. Had high hopes for him in Vancouver but never worked out. Glad to see him doing well in the Windy City.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Why not trade him at his highest value for an asset and then overpay him, or any other forward, in the offseason?

 

[BKarchitect]

He’s been great. 25 goal, 40 point pace and a +7 halfway through the year on this Hawks team?

Shooting percentage is incredibly unsustainable but he was always a promising two-way player back with Dallas before the floor kinda fell out for a year or two his last season there and in Vancouver. Mostly it’s been hard to get him to stay healthy for a full season. Only 28 still so this only takes him to age 30. The goal rate is an aberration but him bouncing back at this stage of his career into a really solid player isn’t at all…

As a rental I thought he was going to be quite sought this TDL - the extension does neuter his pure trade value a bit but it’s A) not nearly the future cap overreaction people want to make it out to be and B) makes it pretty clear the Hawks intend to keep their more valued vets through the initial phase of the rebuild…because we know a revolving door line up of mediocre UFAs surrounding an entire crop of teenagers always goes well…

Why not trade him at his highest value for an asset and then overpay him, or any other forward, in the offseason?

To maintain continuity in the squad and because there is zero insurance you could have some guarantee of getting him back in the summer?

 

[BKarchitect]

Keep in mind at two years this is far less of an investment for Chicago than it would be for some team to sign him for four or five years at lesser AAV in the summer.

Nobody would or should be outraged if he got $3.25 million over 4 years coming off a 20 goal, 40 point season. That’s a fine deal - any fanbase would’ve convinced themselves of that. Versatile positionally, in his prime, excellent two-way value, smack in his prime.

That’s $13 million invested for a solid middle sixers age 29, 30, 31 and 32 seasons.

In the landscape of long-term deals, give me the $8.5 million total investment for age 29 and 30 seasons that Chicago did over the longer term deal every single day…the old adage, it’s not about your monthly payments on the car, it’s about the price of the car and return on investment.

Once you get past that initial AAV…there’s very little to be shocked by here. It’s a great deal for Dickinson and a solid and flexible deal for Chicago.

 

[Grouch]

Players are going to love it.

Are they? Prob not the guys with similar/better stats fighting to get $900k for a year at a time.

HIS agent will love it, but no one will use it as a comp.

 

[Raistlin]

right situation for him. He gets compensated for taking on a mentorship role in his prime instead of winning. Only two years of the stress of losing for an inflated salary is doable.

 

[FlyguyOX]

Between this and Foligno, Jesus Christ Chicago.

I understand you have to use up cap space but WTF.

Agents are going to love it.

Players are going to love it.

GMs are going to hate it.

Idk if players will love it when it squeezes others. Zero-sum game.

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

Why not trade him at his highest value for an asset and then overpay him, or any other forward, in the offseason?

Hawks already have a multitude of draft capital for the next couple of drafts. While more is always better, the Hawks have a REAL shortage of legit NHL players on the roster right now. It doesn't make sense to move one of those few guys for what would be the Hawks fourth 2nd round DP next year.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Like the Foligno signing, there's a reason every Hawks fan is happy about the deal. Both guys are much more than their point totals.

 

[thebigbea]

too bad didn’t work out in Vancouver.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

too bad didn’t work out in Vancouver.

Blackhawk fans are very happy it didn't work out in Vancouver.

 

[YP44]

When you’ve got the cap space, why not

because you could use that cap space to broker other deals, or take bad cap hit plus draft picks/prospects. The hawks have so much space I really do not htink this will limit their abilities to do pretty much whatever they want.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Hawks already have a multitude of draft capital for the next couple of drafts. While more is always better, the Hawks have a REAL shortage of legit NHL players on the roster right now. It doesn't make sense to move one of those few guys for what would be the Hawks fourth 2nd round DP next year.

Is Chicago trying to win this season though? I get they need to ice a somewhat NHL roster for the rest of the season but what are the chances Dickinson is getting that contract from any team he’s traded too? Seems like a missed opportunity to add another pick for going 20 games without Dickinson while still having a very high chance of signing Dickinson anyway.