Prospect Info: Chase Stillman (#29 overall)

[TheDuke93]

I don't think his ceiling is a middle 6 guy. I think quite the opposite. I am going to quote a post I wrote earlier in this thread about his ceiling in a response to a similar question.

"I feel like you think that Stillman doesn't have as high of a ceiling as some of the other guys because his floor as a 3rd liner might be higher than some other "swing for the fences" types we could have drafted, and I would like to say that that is not the case at all. In terms of needs for the Devils, if Stillman hits his ceiling or really just develops like he is supposed to, he is exactly the kind of player you have on championship-winning teams. Stillman ceiling is a 30-30-60 first-line physically dominant power forward who is a beast in front of the net on the powerplay and surprises other teams with his impressive transition play, skating, and hands, and is the kind of player you throw out there with a minute left no matter if you are winning or losing. Obviously, I could go bonkers and say he can put up 80 points a year, but if we are being realistic, and absolutely everything goes right for Stillman, then this is the kind of player you are looking at."

I appreciate this, but I agree with you and it was more so a blanket statement to the whole room, I was just commenting it on your post lol.

 

[RememberTheName]

I appreciate this, but I agree with you and it was more so a blanket statement to the whole room, I was just commenting it on your post lol.

That wasn't really directed at you either haha. That was directed at someone else who I was originally commenting on, but I just quoted the whole thing because it was just easiest.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

I feel I'm the one guy who had Rosen over Lysell in my rankings. Rosen is the ultra-high-upside Swedish F I would have targeted int he 2021 draft.

I most certainly had him higher.

 

[glenwo2]

I have no issue with him being picked.

I know some here say the comparison to Bastian is ridiculous 'cause Chase is more talented, which I agree.

But my point is that Chase may have been drafted to replace Bastian.

 

[The 29th Pick]

there’s more pages in this thread than the hughes one

we've been talking about Hughes for a month!
Stillman is a new thing

 

[My3Sons]

I have no issue with him being picked.

I know some here say the comparison to Bastian is ridiculous 'cause Chase is more talented, which I agree.

But my point is that Chase may have been drafted to replace Bastian.

That’s too remote. Stillman is three or four years away. If Bastian is going to be replaced it’s essentially now. I expect they use Merkley in that role to open the season and audition a number guys there over the course of the season.

 

[glenwo2]

we've been talking about Hughes for a month!
Stillman is a new thing

But still...man.

 

[glenwo2]

That’s too remote. Stillman is three or four years away. If Bastian is going to be replaced it’s essentially now. I expect they use Merkley in that role to open the season and audition a number guys there over the course of the season.

That's true. I'm glad Merk is going to get plenty of PT now.

 

[RangerDoggo]

Fitz nailing the early first round picks and reaching for need in the late first round, name a more iconic duo

 

[The 29th Pick]

But still...man.

oh no you did-int
and you thought my bak-lava jokes were bad !!!

 

[The 29th Pick]

That’s too remote. Stillman is three or four years away. If Bastian is going to be replaced it’s essentially now. I expect they use Merkley in that role to open the season and audition a number guys there over the course of the season.

I suggested Merkley could fill his role and got..."Merkley is a completely different type of player than Bastain" (from this board)

 

[MadDevil]

I suggested Merkley could fill his role and got..."Merkley is a completely different type of player than Bastain" (from this board)

Nobody can replace Nate Bastian.

 

[HersheyBob27]

Connor chatham flashbacks

I'd rather Pastujov

Thats what I see too. Does seem near dynamic enough to play in the NHL

 

[Emperoreddy]

Fitz compared him to Coleman in an interview.

 

[HyperX]

Now this is the right thread

 

[devilsblood]

Said it in the other thread, but I'm doubting Stillman has his speed/quickness.

Coleman is also top of the charts in terms of effort.

Now if Stillman is fast with good effort, even if he's not Coleman in either regard, then I do like that.

 

[Call Me Al]

watching the clips of stillman effort is not a problem. he looked like he hit everything that moved without being over the top going out of his way. i like to see it but let’s see if he has the skill.

missing a year and a half of development is a wild card so i’m not gonna pass any judgment until i see a little more

 

[Call Me Al]

basically have learned not to really pass a ton of judgment but i’ll look forward to following all of these kids. they seemed to go in a different direction than people thought but they’ve earned the benefit of the doubt with some of their finds in recent years so gonna hope for the best here

 

[Devils Army]

Said it in the other thread, but I'm doubting Stillman has his speed/quickness.

Coleman is also top of the charts in terms of effort.

Now if Stillman is fast with good effort, even if he's not Coleman in either regard, then I do like that.

Coleman developed his skating and quickness a lot as he developed more. We're still talking about an 18 year old who didn't play much hockey this year

 

[devilsblood]

Coleman developed his skating and quickness a lot as he developed more. We're still talking about an 18 year old who didn't play much hockey this year

I'm of the opinion that you can improve your skating, but your speed is your speed.

And I'm not trying to knock Stillman here, I've never seen him play, but Coleman has a high level combination of speed/quickness, and his motor is as good as anyone in the league. If Stillman resembles Coleman on the ice I'd be stoked.

 

[devilsblood]

watching the clips of stillman effort is not a problem. he looked like he hit everything that moved without being over the top going out of his way. i like to see it but let’s see if he has the skill.

missing a year and a half of development is a wild card so i’m not gonna pass any judgment until i see a little more

He missed a year, maybe even a little less, depending on how we consider his time in Europe this season. I think he'll be OK. And guys with good work ethic will fare better in downtime then those without it.

 

[MadDevil]

Even if he's never as good as Coleman he's still the type of player we don't have a lot of in the organization. Whether that type of player is worth a late 1st round pick I think you can debate.

 

[devilsblood]

Even if he's never as good as Coleman he's still the type of player we don't have a lot of in the organization. Whether that type of player is worth a late 1st round pick I think you can debate.

I'm not against the pick at all.

I just think Coleman is a tough comparison, and maybe a little overused(heard it with Talvitie too). Also an easy way for Fitz to get the skeptical fans behind the pick.

 

[Devils Army]

I'm of the opinion that you can improve your skating, but your speed is your speed.

And I'm not trying to knock Stillman here, I've never seen him play, but Coleman has a high level combination of speed/quickness, and his motor is as good as anyone in the league. If Stillman resembles Coleman on the ice I'd be stoked.

Disagree completely. Coleman 100% improved his speed and agility over time. Others in the past have as well.

 

[My3Sons]

I suggested Merkley could fill his role and got..."Merkley is a completely different type of player than Bastain" (from this board)

I think it’s semantics. Merkley will fill the spot occupied by Bastian but I’m not sure he can completely replace Bastian. He’s not as big and strong even if he is a willing checker and he plays with effort and heart.