GWT: Champions League Group Stage Round 2

[YNWA14]

Not sure if you're questioning that but, you don't think there's a lot of guesswork involved in a penalty kick? I mean, how often to keepers jump the wrong way, or move out of the way of a ball hit right at them? Come on now.

 

[MrFunnyWobbl]

you guys and your penalty discussion

Lol

 

[Ceremony]

Not sure if you're questioning that but, you don't think there's a lot of guesswork involved in a penalty kick? I mean, how often to keepers jump the wrong way, or move out of the way of a ball hit right at them? Come on now.

You'll be telling me it's a lottery next.

 

[YNWA14]

You'll be telling me it's a lottery next.

 

[Evilo]

Jesus, I'm not saying they're mutually exclusive. They have many overlapping skills. But saying definitively that being a good penalty saver means that goalie must be a good shot stopper or the inverse is patently false.

Again, you're wrong. That's okay.

So what you're saying is that all the skills you noted as being PK stopping skills in your first post are also shot stopping skills.

 

[bluesfan94]

So what you're saying is that all the skills you noted as being PK stopping skills in your first post are also shot stopping skills.

I don't know how many times I need to repeat myself. Yes, a lot of skills overlap. That doesn't mean that they're the same skill. Saving penalties focuses more on reflexes and athleticism. Shot stopping focuses more on reading the game and positioning, but still requires reflexes and athleticism. Hence how someone can be a good PK saver and not necessarily a good shot stopper.

Can't wait to see how I'm wrong this time, because you know so much more about football than everyone.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Great that you've been a world class goalie because pro goales actually DO study the tendencies of the PK shooters. Like ALL THE TIME.

I thought even basic football fans knew this, so I'm surprised you, as a near pro goalie, can't know that.

Obviously goalies study up on penalty tendencies and where players like to go, but even then there's still guess work on where the shooter will go. Knowing your shooters tendencies just makes it a more educated guess, because for all you know the could do the exact opposite of what they usually do. There's a lot of mind games that go on in penalty shootouts and pk's

 

[Evilo]

I don't know how many times I need to repeat myself. Yes, a lot of skills overlap. That doesn't mean that they're the same skill. Saving penalties focuses more on reflexes and athleticism. Shot stopping focuses more on reading the game and positioning, but still requires reflexes and athleticism. Hence how someone can be a good PK saver and not necessarily a good shot stopper.

Can't wait to see how I'm wrong this time, because you know so much more about football than everyone.

So you're everyone now?

I won't even answer, I've made my case clear and even gave you a list of the best PK stoppers. Weird, they also overlap the best shot stoppers in the game...

 

[ScottishCanuck]

Evilo is perhaps the most condescending poster on this board.

I'm not saying he's wrong, but it seems as if someone tries to argue otherwise they're labeled as inferior. Always a sly dig involved. Can be kind of entertaining to read, I guess

 

[YNWA14]

Evilo is perhaps the most condescending poster on this board.

It's certainly very close between him and one other.

 

[Evilo]

Evilo is perhaps the most condescending poster on this board.

I'm not saying he's wrong, but it seems as if someone tries to argue otherwise they're labeled as inferior. Always a sly dig involved. Can be kind of entertaining to read, I guess

I admit
That said, I read a lot of ridiculous stuff here, so that kind of helps me get a tad agressive
I'll say this board has been much more informed than it was 5 years or 10 years ago however.
We do see some outrageous posts from time to time (see no german player would start on the english squad stuff during the Euro), but in the end, the biggest gripes I get is when someone is trying to lecture me while not knowing what they're talking about.

 

[Deficient Mode]

I admit
That said, I read a lot of ridiculous stuff here, so that kind of helps me get a tad agressive
I'll say this board has been much more informed than it was 5 years or 10 years ago however.
We do see some outrageous posts from time to time (see no german player would start on the english squad stuff during the Euro), but in the end, the biggest gripes I get is when someone is trying to lecture me while not knowing what they're talking about.

My favorite was when the same guy argued with 100% certainty that the EPL is better than la Liga when everyone disagreed with him. At least with the post about Germany vs. England squads he didn't proceed to stick his foot further in his mouth.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

It's certainly very close between him and one other.

Never have truer words been spoken

 

[Evilo]

Never have truer words been spoken

 

[bluesfan94]

So you're everyone now?

I won't even answer, I've made my case clear and even gave you a list of the best PK stoppers. Weird, they also overlap the best shot stoppers in the game...

Remarkably, I'm not only talking about this one instance.

It's amazing, then, that everyone else is weighing in against you.

 

[YNWA14]

Never have truer words been spoken

The best is when they're going at eachother. It's like a condescension overload, or a train wreck. You don't want to watch it but you can't look away.

I mean that in the nicest way possible of course.

 

[Evilo]

Remarkably, I'm not only talking about this one instance.

It's amazing, then, that everyone else is weighing in against you.

I don't think you'll see me use a tone like this with Juni or Gary.
So you get your answer.

The best is when they're going at eachother. It's like a condescension overload, or a train wreck. You don't want to watch it but you can't look away.

I mean that in the nicest way possible of course.

Oh my....

 

[phisherman]

http://www.sportskeeda.com/football...saving-goalkeeper-europe-diego-alves-valencia

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/4o8v9u/figuring_out_who_the_best_penalty_savers_among/

Here. You guys can manipulate these stats to suit your argument.

 

[ScottishCanuck]

I admit
That said, I read a lot of ridiculous stuff here, so that kind of helps me get a tad agressive
I'll say this board has been much more informed than it was 5 years or 10 years ago however.
We do see some outrageous posts from time to time (see no german player would start on the english squad stuff during the Euro), but in the end, the biggest gripes I get is when someone is trying to lecture me while not knowing what they're talking about.

Fair enough

 

[bluesfan94]

I don't think you'll see me use a tone like this with Juni or Gary.
So you get your answer.

It's amazing that you're so condescending even when you're wrong. It just blows my mind.

 

[Evilo]

It's amazing that you're so condescending even when you're wrong. It just blows my mind.

Which is great, you need some mind blowing.

 

[bluesfan94]

Which is great, you need some mind blowing.

Your comebacks are about as talented as your goalkeeping analysis.

 

[Evilo]

Your comebacks are about as talented as your goalkeeping analysis.

Clearly I can't reach your "near-pro" level

 

[bluesfan94]

Clearly I can't reach your "near-pro" level

I like how you're now quoting a phrase that you put into my mouth and using it to be condescending. Stick to French. Conversing in English is beyond you.

 

[Evilo]

I like how you're now quoting a phrase that you put into my mouth and using it to be condescending. Stick to French. Conversing in English is beyond you.

Sorry your comprehension skills are beyond my powers.