Ok so we have to take a cap dump back, retain salary even though he has another full year left and you put the only thing that really interests the Sabres off the table. we aren't giving Kane away. I don't know why you value the 2017 1st so much, this draft is weak and if you expect to be a playoff team then you aren't going to get a player as good as Kane with it. You can keep Jankowski, he may be a fine player but not what we are looking for in return for Kane. We either want high picks or a top 4 LHD roster player. Not a center prospect who is only 2 years younger then Kane.
I'll gladly keep Kane if we aren't getting a top 4 LHD in return. And I wouldn't mind extending Kane at 5.25-5.5 per. And why are people mentioning $6 mil? His actual salary is irrelevant unless you are a budget team. Cap hit not salary is what matters.
As for the Sabre fans saying there is no room to keep Kane are wrong. Cap is going up a few mil next year, we are losing a lot of dead weight off the roster and Moulson and Ennis will be gone by year 2 of a new Kane contract. $5.5 mil for what he brings is fair value. If he is putting up 25 goals, Good possession, speed, forechecking and physicality then I am all for an extension. He is going to be 26 years old when he hits UFA status and will turn 27 prior to the season starting. He will be in demand due to age and production. Not many top 6 forwards hit UFA status especially ones only 26/27. So even if Kane got a 7 year deal he would only be 33 at the end of it so he will likely still be producing throughout the whole length of the deal.
Nobody wants Evander Kane.
Not going to lie I didn't bother reading this because after the first couple sentences you appear to think Kane has value and teams want him. This is not the case or he'd have been moved already. A bit of a hot streak doesn't change that he is an overpaid problem child
He doesn't make $6M....
^ this guy was a Kane hater 3 weeks ago...
Yeah, "plenty" of players hit and forecheck and I'm sure they are all 20+ goal scorers too
Kane would be tied for 2nd on the Flames in goals (even though he has missed 11 games)...oh and he would have the highest gpg on the Flames right now. But yeah, he wouldn't help your team. Oh wait actually he would when it's April and the Flames fluke run has them outside the playoffs.
If that's true it's amazing what hot streaks do to fair-weather fans
He was a "cap dump" in early december.
It's also fun to watch the same person describe him as "only scoring more than 20 goals once" when the hating was going on, to "he's scored at least 19 goals FOUR times", now that Kane is in the midst of an excellent hot streak.
box score fans...
haha that is gold...It sounds like my fellow kings fans want nothing to do with him, but I have wanted him for a while now. Before was more low ball offers hoping the Sabres would want to dump him due to off ice crap. He has never come close to cap dump in my eyes. He is a 25 year top 6 scoring winger who can play with a physical edge...I like and want that.
Muzzin for Kane?
too much, I would do Martinez.
Maybe if something is added to Kane then Muzzin would be an option.
edit: although I think I am the only Kings fan who would even consider that. So maybe I am just out to lunch
these are the posts I love. I don't think there are teams out there who would want Kane, I know there are teams out there who want Kane. This really is pretty comical at the Kane haters who haven't even seen him the last two years but are going off of what Kane posted on twitter before or the incident Kane got in with a class A **** bag like Dustin Byufglien who is just as big a joke personality wise as Kane is.
Keep dreaming if you think Evander Kane doesn't have substantial value or that "no one" wants Kane. When the first poster said "nobody wants Evander Kane" he clearly meant I personally hate Kane for whatever reason so I'll make a comically false and sad comment that is totally wrong.
I don't care what players post on twitter. I don't care what happened in the Jets locker room. Evander Kane has done absolutely nothing wrong while a member of the Sabres in the locker room. His teammates love him. But when a gold digger accuses Kane of sexual assault that's the reason you get these idiotic posts about him.
When it comes to actual hockey and not social media, Kane is a coveted and unique player. I'm not saying Kane is a first liner (he isn't) or that he's a star. What I am saying is that Evander Kane is a 25 year old top 6 winger who brings quite a bit to a team and that's fact.
Not too long ago he was accused of threatening to kill a bouncer and grabbing a woman by the throat. I haven't kept apprised of the situation to know if things moved forward but charged were filed against him. Kane has been a problem in the dressing room in the past, he's been a distraction to him teams and despite being reportedly shopped no one has been willing to trade for him.I don't care what players post on twitter. I don't care what happened in the Jets locker room. Evander Kane has done absolutely nothing wrong while a member of the Sabres in the locker room. His teammates love him. But when a gold digger accuses Kane of sexual assault that's the reason you get these idiotic posts about him.
Not too long ago he was accused of threatening to kill a bouncer and grabbing a woman by the throat. I haven't kept apprised of the situation to know if things moved forward but charged were filed against him. Kane has been a problem in the dressing room in the past, he's been a distraction to him teams and despite being reportedly shopped no one has been willing to trade for him.
Keep telling yourself how much value he has, maybe you will actually believe it yourself because no one else does.
You know I can see why his team mates love him, Buffalo seems like a classless organization.
Putting my ill feelings for Kane aside, I think there is a remote chance of a fit but it would need to meet the following requirements:
1. Buffalo would have to eat some cap. This is needed because the Flames are already into their LTIR exemption for Smid.
2. An NHL contract has to go back to Buffalo (Lance Bouma, 2.2 million cap hit with the same remaining term as Kane would be most likely).
3. Our 1st round pick and Mark Jankowski are off limits.
4. Kane has to be okay with playing on what would be the Flames 3rd line. Gaudreau is not moving down in the lineup and Tkachuk, Backlund and Frolik have been the Flames best line. This would leave Kane to play with Bennett and one of Kris Versteeg, Troy Brouwer or Alex Chiasson.
E.Kane + 2nd/Baptiste/Bailey
for
Muzzin
What would that add have to be? 2nd rounder or a wing prospect?
Fasching doesn't make sense for obvious reasons but Bailey or Baptiste are equivalent if not more valuable than Hudson. So I'd do:
E.Kane + 2nd/Baptiste/Bailey
for
Muzzin
Can I ask what the obvious reason is? I know he was dealt from LA but that more about LA filling a D need than anything against Fasching wasn't it?
As for the deal I do not know a lot about the prospects mentioned. I would think if their value is around a 2nd that would be a pretty close deal.
Still if I were DL I would try and do Martinez not Muzzin.
Simply because it seems unlikely he'd be traded back to the team he came from to begin with.
I only mentioned him as a reference point for value, since I figured he'd be known to Kings fans and he is comparable to the other two mentioned prospects.
i think a lot of king fan s regret trading Fasching myself included. I think a offer of kane and Fasching would make most king fans think hard about it. I am starting to warm up to it myself Would buffalo consider Kane Fasching and a 3rd for muzzin ?