Proposal: [CGY/BUF] Andersson for Cozens+
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I think it’s very close. 2 recent high 1st round picks that have developed well. What picks and prospects of the Sabres do you think is close? Remember RA is only signed for 2 more years.
crackdown44
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Yeah and if he doesn’t want to re-sign in Buffalo you can flip him 2 years from now for a 1st + prospect which is pretty close to the value that you’re offering here
That's not close in value at all. I'd imagine you'd get the standard rental package of a late 1st and some sort of prospect. If that prospect is as good as Rosen I'd consider that a win. Nothing in that package comes anywhere near a top 10 pick who's tracking very well since he was drafted. In order to get a piece like that Calgary is going to have to sell Andersson with some term on his deal.
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Savoie is a nice piece. Rosen is like your 6-7th best prospect, the kind of guy that goes with the late first for a rental
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It's really not. Savoie and Kulich are basically a wash. Kulich could very well turn out to be a legit top-6 scoring winger who provides value on the PP.......but not a whole lot more. Savoie seems to be profiling towards a speedy middle-six winger who flies around the ice as a puckhound, is defensively responsible....but there are legit questions as to how high his offensive ceiling is.
It's comparing Rosen (spelled with an S, not a Z) to a 2024 1st where these offers drastically differ. I don't think you'd find a single GM (real or imagined) that would take Rosen over a 2024 1st UNLESS a specific set of circumstances are met: that GM would need to prioritize getting Rosen in the NHL in 24/25 and be OK with him likely being a middle 6 winger who is speedy, can shoot and at least tries in his own end and might provide some value on a 2nd PP unit.
EITHER WAY......Savoie + Rosen OR Kulich + 2024 1st isn't likely enough to land Andersson from the Flames. Andersson is a legit top 4 RHD on a steal of a deal for the next 2 years.........and no one is trading for Andersson as a "2-year rental". Any team trading for Andersson is likely extending him as soon as they're capable. The question then becomes -- what else needs to be added to Savoie + Rosen or Kulich and a 1st to ensure that Buffalo gets Andersson ASAP.
The thing is -- Calgary likely wants a young center. Buffalo doesn't really have one outside of Ostlund that's likely available. Tage and Cozens aren't likely available for Andersson. Mitts MIGHT be. So any team that can offer Calgary a high-upside center probably gets the edge.
Djp
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A pick at 9 and 14 OA vs a pick 25-32 and a secondary p rut prospect ( not top one like what Savoie is). Those are not close.
Look at what was given up for chychrun...a mid 1st and 2 2nds. Savoir and Rosen are well as above that.
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Yeah what I’m saying is the difference between a say 25 OA and Savoie is not enough for me to give up the extra 2 years of Andersson with his cap hit. I consider Rosen to be equivalent to the type of prospect he’d get with the late first as a rental
I think a lot of teams would beat that offer of Savoie + Rosen if Andersson were on the market, and I don’t think he is short of an overpay
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I generally agree, the only caveat being that Buffalo's 6th or 7th best prospect is better than a lot of other teams 6th or 7th best prospect (even if he never lives up to the hype of being a 14th overall pick). He could absolutely move though, as Buffalo is bursting at the seams with forward prospects.
Well its there, dude literally said they are similar in ways like good offense shit at everything else.
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Rosen would be higher in about 30 other team pools. Where he sits in the Sabres’ stacked pool isn’t relevant.
