Confirmed with Link: CBJ acquire Mathieu Olivier from Nashville for a 2022 4th
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Yeah I get that, I understand I was stating the obvious. I just think it's funny how many folks are chafing at this 4th rounder when Jarmo & pro scouts obviously feel differently.
Jarmo does a lot of things that I don't agree with. I could give you a long list but I have to go to work.
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My take is this guy plays in Cleveland the majority of the time but gets call ups when we play teams like Minny, or Calgary.
Of course, and I enjoy reading your dissenting opinions. Nothing wrong with that.
"Already in the NHL" is, uh, doing a *lot* of work here.
He played 46 AHL games last season with Milwaukee and just 10 games in the NHL.
He's 25 and his career stats are 3-4-7 with 88 PIM in 48 career NHL games. He's played in 5 playoff games in the NHL, no points. He's played in 156 AHL games in his career, including 12 playoff games.
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Alright, already in the pros with the ability to play in the NHL. Is that better?
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Are there any guys who would fit the bill for what this guy brings who can actually play? I supppse they would cost more than a 4th. To me, that speaks to how much Jarmo values the role.
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I was, and had a few posts about on this page of the GDT:
GDT: - Game 66: Columbus @ Minnesota | 8 PM ET
My main point was we should look for a N. Foligno OR Calvert OR Dubinsky OR Anderson. Maybe two. But not Foligno AND Calvert AND Dubinsky AND Anderson.
But I wasn't even thinking about a guy like Olivier. I was only thinking about tough/gritty guys that can actually also play hockey at least competently at the NHL level.
He's losing his waiver exemption so we could lose him for nothing if we send him to Cleveland. That's why Nashville traded him, because they were going to waive him.
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Jay Beagle, apparently. John Hayden, Brett Ritchie, Anthony Angello, Mason Geertsen, Colton Sceviour, Nick Deslauriers, Kevin Rooney, Zac Aston-Reese.
All UFAs.
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I really would have enjoyed having a guy named Rooney on the roster.
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A 4th rounder does nothing to help this team now and MAYBE helps us 3-4 years down the line.
This is a move that POTENTIALLY helps us now.
That's how I see it. Nothing more than a modern day Boll.
This is a move that POTENTIALLY helps us now.
That's how I see it. Nothing more than a modern day Boll.
To clarify what I find funny about this is folks are basically saying "we trust Jarmo/scouts to choose a good 18-20 year old in the 4th round, but we don't trust them when it comes to this particular 25 year old."
Like you said, obviously they determined the potential impact of that 25 year old now > the potential impact of a 19 year old years from now, but there's some irony in trusting them to choose a 4th rounder instead of this guy.
Part of the rub here is that we're paying in draft picks when we could be paying in $$. That and the quality is low. Deslauriers wouldn't be cheap but he doesn't cost an asset and he's solidly a better hockey player and a better fighter. It seems as though there is some penny pinching going on here, maybe dictated by ownership.
Or, ya know, just assume Jarmo didn't think of that.
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I guess for me it's just a matter of confusion. I just don't recall guys like Olivier who have very little NHL experience or junior pedigree returning a pick like this. In no way am I sweating the loss of a 4th round pick for some immediate help, I just don't recall much precedent. He was gonna hit the waiver wire in October.
My thought is there must have been someone offering another late pick, and Jarmo simply identified Olivier as the guy he wanted and said f*** it, and paid a slightly higher price.
It makes me wonder what we could get for a guy like Bemstrom.
My thought is there must have been someone offering another late pick, and Jarmo simply identified Olivier as the guy he wanted and said f*** it, and paid a slightly higher price.
It makes me wonder what we could get for a guy like Bemstrom.
Another winger added to the bottom 6 logjam. Jarmo really needs to get his trading pants on, and start moving some forwards
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You kind of want the power of being the team to waive him at the beginning of the season when he won’t be as likely to get claimed. Before injuries. When you don’t want to piss off your own borderline AHL / NHL guy that you are counting on for leadership in the AHL. And you really don’t want to piss off your own young guy battling to make the team.
If he stayed with Nashville and they waive him, what are we going to do? Claim him and tell Kent Johnson that he is going to Cleveland? Get him now, waive him when other borderline guys are getting waived right before the season starts, and he ends up in Cleveland to protect the young guys, and nobody gets mad that a roster spot is taken.
If he stayed with Nashville and they waive him, what are we going to do? Claim him and tell Kent Johnson that he is going to Cleveland? Get him now, waive him when other borderline guys are getting waived right before the season starts, and he ends up in Cleveland to protect the young guys, and nobody gets mad that a roster spot is taken.
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Makes sense but wouldn't it have been much better to spend a bit of money and get Deslauriers, who is a bona-fide NHL quality player and a better fighter?
It would be funny if Jeannot or someone gets injured in camp and then Nashville claims Olivier off of waivers, pocketing the 4th.
