Injury Report: Carter Hart, lower body injury, out the next 10 days (Feb. 23)

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

https://www.tsn.ca/flyers-hart-lbi-out-at-least-10-days-1.1262564

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[BillDineen]

Then why did Gordon comment on choosing Elliott over Hart? Did it happen in practice?

 

[Orange and Black]

PR move

 

[klutch]

Shouldn’t of played him against MTL so he could rest for this game. Can we get coaches that don’t break goalies?

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

All these injuries, is it on goalie coach, health and conditioning staff or just a bad luck? I can't help but think this isn't normal is it?

 

[Jtown]

good job fletch

 

[bennysflyers16]

good job fletch

For choosing Gordon ?

Agree it’s looking like a horrible decision to let him think he had a future

 

[lancer247]

Maybe shouldn’t have played the kid 4 games in 6 days.

 

[lancer247]

Wait so lose for Hughes is back baby!

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

shocking I tell ya. shocking. You would think that Gordon would know how to play goalies since he was one himself.
nope. he is a clown in a suit.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Someone please post some actual scientific evidence regarding the exact moment a goalie is overplayed to the point it significantly increases his risk of injury.

Should teams stop practicing because it makes players more likely to get hurt?

Should non-goalies be held out of games, or does the overplayed injury risk only apply to goalies?

Maybe NHL teams should ice rosters of 20 scab players on the ends of back to backs.

Should NHL teams have a rotation of 5 starting goalies, like MLB pitchers? Maybe they should have closers for 3rd periods, also.

Anyway, I’m curious—what are the medical guidelines?

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

4 starts in 6 days is too much for a 20 year old kid just starting his career. Hell its too much for many goalies.
and it is different for skaters GB. How long have you been watching hockey? jeez.

Yes the playoffs are a different animal. The Oilers played Talbot 70 games a few years ago and he has not really been the same since.
you have a backup for a reason. Sure maybe he still gets dinged up regardless. But he still should of not started 4 games in 6 days.

 

[Jtown]

For choosing Gordon ?

Agree it’s looking like a horrible decision to let him think he had a future

for bringing him up in the first place

 

[Ghosts Beer]

4 starts in 6 days is too much for a 20 year old kid just starting his career. Hell its too much for many goalies.
and it is different for skaters GB. How long have you been watching hockey? jeez.

Yes the playoffs are a different animal. The Oilers played Talbot 70 games a few years ago and he has not really been the same since.
you have a backup for a reason. Sure maybe he still gets dinged up regardless. But he still should of not started 4 games in 6 games.

Where’s the science? Why are playoffs somehow different? They should be even more physically taxing. How do Stanley Cup winning goalies routinely manage to play 20+ games in a row after a full regular season?

Why is goalie so different than say a #1 defenseman who is physically battling with opponents all night?

Was it the 10 minutes Hart played against Tampa that hurt him, or the 10 minutes against Montreal?

Maybe he worked out off ice — should that be banned?

Show me some actual scientific evidence. Otherwise it’s just fans making things up.

 

[VladDrag]

f*** this team

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

@Beef Invictus

 

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

Someone please post some actual scientific evidence regarding the exact moment a goalie is overplayed to the point it significantly increases his risk of injury.

Should teams stop practicing because it makes players more likely to get hurt?

Should non-goalies be held out of games, or does the overplayed injury risk only apply to goalies?

Maybe NHL teams should ice rosters of 20 scab players on the ends of back to backs.

Should NHL teams have a rotation of 5 starting goalies, like MLB pitchers? Maybe they should have closers for 3rd periods, also.

Anyway, I’m curious—what are the medical guidelines?

There aren't medical guidelines per se. However, Jim Rutherford admitted that with Cam Ward, he overplayed him his first two years and that lead to a lot of the injuries he suffered. He started 86% of the games over the two years, faced 4500 shots, saved 4152 and saved more shots than what most goalies faced over the same two year period.

So, there's definitely some merit that when a young goaltender gets a lot of starts, faces a lot of rubber and plays behind a not so good defense, there's going to be some injuries.

We also saw it with Antero Niittymaki when he was here. Hitch ran him those numerous games in a row and the next thing you know, Niitty was plagued with hip injuries the rest of his career. We also saw it with Steve Mason when Hakstol wouldn't use Stolarz and he ran Mason into the ground. I'm sure you can go around the league and see how many goalies have been injuries by playing so many games in a row. The days of 20 - 30 starts in a row are a thing of the past, especially with the way the game is played.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

There aren't medical guidelines per se. However, Jim Rutherford admitted that with Cam Ward, he overplayed him his first two years and that lead to a lot of the injuries he suffered. He started 86% of the games over the two years, faced 4500 shots, saved 4152 and saved more shots than what most goalies faced over the same two year period.

So, there's definitely some merit that when a young goaltender gets a lot of starts, faces a lot of rubber and plays behind a not so good defense, there's going to be some injuries.

We also saw it with Antero Niittymaki when he was here. Hitch ran him those numerous games in a row and the next thing you know, Niitty was plagued with hip injuries the rest of his career. We also saw it with Steve Mason when Hakstol wouldn't use Stolarz and he ran Mason into the ground. I'm sure you can go around the league and see how many goalies have been injuries by playing so many games in a row. The days of 20 - 30 starts in a row are a thing of the past, especially with the way the game is played.

And, what, a few skipped games would have prevented those injuries? What amount of skipped games prevent them?

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

We're really doing this again?

 

[Magua]

We're really doing this again?

You haven’t seen his medical records.

 

[BringBackHakstol]

Knowing that he should have been playing the stadium series game since he's pretty much the only thing the mainstream fans care about other than gritty, managing his starts in the previous week in a logical way should have been easy

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

I blame Dave Scott, as I will continue to do for all ills that befall the Flyers.

 

[Garbage Goal]

I’ve seen goalies ran into the ground before. Ward, Talbot, guys like Andersen having it all catch up in the playoffs, etc.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen any franchise run every goalie to the point of injury over more than one head coach and GM.

Flyers hockey.

 

[dingbathero]

BREAK ALL THE GOALIES.

 

[IronMarshal]

Bernie Parent? Never any issues like that. Played 70 a season. Took an eye injury to take him out of the game