Value of: Carl Gunnarson and Jaybo

[Colt55]

We no longer have room for these two Defenseman. Gunnerson and Jaybo would make great 2nd or 3rd pairing lhd on a bunch of teams. What would you offer. Just curious.

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[Spirit of 67]

We no longer have room for these two Defenseman. Gunnerson and Jaybo would make great 2nd or 3rd pairing lhd on a bunch of teams. What would you offer. Just curious.

Ron Hainsey.

 

[Colt55]

Ron Hainsey.

We would be looking more for draft picks not so much other dman that will be sitting on the bench or taking on other contracts. Gunny and Jaybo are UFA so they would most likely just be rentals help. I could see retention to up their value. Currently Gunner makes 2.9mil and Jaybo makes 5.4mil

 

[Stuzchuk]

Ron Hainsey.

looking to move salary and players since they have like 5 LHD that can play in the NHL

 

[Colt55]

looking to move salary and players since they have like 5 LHD that can play in the NHL

Also trying to get something for expiring contracts i dont expect a 1st possibly a second with retention. I wonder id anyone would be willing to give a first for Jaybo if he was retained 50% and a pick going back from us would work just curious.

 

[67Blues]

Ron Hainsey.

You forgot the

 

[Spirit of 67]

You forgot the

 

[bleedblue1223]

JayBo isn't good enough to get a return, we're better off just riding the contract out. Gunnar depends on how returns for injury. He'll either be worth keeping and playing or useless and won't have any value.

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

JayBo isn't good enough to get a return, we're better off just riding the contract out. Gunnar depends on how returns for injury. He'll either be worth keeping and playing or useless and won't have any value.

Except that the Blues can't just ride out Bouwmeester's contract if everyone is healthy. Right now, the only way to keep both Bouwmeester and Gunnarsson on the roster (when Gunnarsson is activated soon) is to keep the roster at only 22.

Maybe they'll do that for a couple games and showcase Gunnarsson, then trade him. But it would be a lot more convenient to trade Bouwmeester.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Except that the Blues can't just ride out Bouwmeester's contract if everyone is healthy. Right now, the only way to keep both Bouwmeester and Gunnarsson on the roster (when Gunnarsson is activated soon) is to keep the roster at only 22.

Maybe they'll do that for a couple games and showcase Gunnarsson, then trade him. But it would be a lot more convenient to trade Bouwmeester.

No one would want Bouwmeester. Who would pay that much money for a guy who would be their worst defenseman?

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

No one would want Bouwmeester. Who would pay that much money for a guy who would be their worst defenseman?

Obviously, the deal would include something to make it palatable for a team that cares more about futures than the current salary. You might have seen the thread I started here a couple weeks ago speculating about trading Bouwmeester as a negative asset. I think something like that may be the case.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Obviously, the deal would include something to make it palatable for a team that cares more about futures than the current salary. You might have seen the thread I started here a couple weeks ago speculating about trading Bouwmeester as a negative asset. I think something like that may be the case.

That wouldn't be worth it for us though. It's best to just hold on until you can't anymore since it's his last year.

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

That wouldn't be worth it for us though. It's best to just hold on until you can't anymore since it's his last year.

Sure. Great. But you have to be cap compliant. They can't do NOTHING. And the timing is getting urgent. Soshnikov and Bortuzzo are not going to be on IR much longer.

And its probably harder to get someone interested in Gunnarsson who they haven't even seen play post-injury. At least everyone can see Bouwmeester has his mobility back. He's played poorly, but much of that can be attributed to rust. Its been his timing and decision-making that are hurting his game right now. Those are things he's done well with historically, so there is good reason to believe he can be a serviceable NHL player. Moving Gunnarsson instead makes the cap a very tight situation as the season goes along. It makes it harder to entertain making a goalie deal. The Blues can afford to add a reasonable sweetener to Bouwmeester to move him. Maybe even retain some.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Sure. Great. But you have to be cap compliant. They can't do NOTHING. And the timing is getting urgent. Soshnikov and Bortuzzo are not going to be on IR much longer.

And its probably harder to get someone interested in Gunnarsson who they haven't even seen play post-injury. At least everyone can see Bouwmeester has his mobility back. He's played poorly, but much of that can be attributed to rust. Its been his timing and decision-making that are hurting his game right now. Those are things he's done well with historically, so there is good reason to believe he can be a serviceable NHL player. Moving Gunnarsson instead makes the cap a very tight situation as the season goes along. It makes it harder to entertain making a goalie deal. The Blues can afford to add a reasonable sweetener to Bouwmeester to move him. Maybe even retain some.

You run 22 until you can't. They are more or less fine for now.

 

[Reality Czech]

This oughta be fun. Which team is offering the biggest bag of pucks?

 

[Em etah Eh]

This oughta be fun. Which team is offering the biggest bag of pucks?

The bigger the bag, the more the shipping will cost. You know the other team ain't paying for shipping in a Jaybo deal. I say we just take a small bag back.

 

[Brock Radunske]

This oughta be fun. Which team is offering the biggest bag of pucks?

I'll open up the bidding with one single puck

 

[Reality Czech]

Dang, I was gonna start the bidding at 100 bit I must admit Em etah eh does make a good point.

 

[qqaz]

Boumeester can play the right side, correct? I think he played on the right for some international tournaments. If so, the Leafs may have interest. It's appealing that it's the last year of his contract, as Toronto will have no cap room next season.

 

[BleedBlue14]

Boumeester can play the right side, correct? I think he played on the right for some international tournaments. If so, the Leafs may have interest. It's appealing that it's the last year of his contract, as Toronto will have no cap room next season.

We are currently trying to figure out if he can still play the left side. I'm assuming the right side wont make much of a difference.

 

[Brock Radunske]

Boumeester can play the right side, correct? I think he played on the right for some international tournaments. If so, the Leafs may have interest. It's appealing that it's the last year of his contract, as Toronto will have no cap room next season.

Noooooo.
I have nothing against JBo but Babs will LOVE him and grossly over play him.

See: Hainsey, Ron

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

If the Flames are in a comfortable playoff position I'd love for them to try Gunnarsson by the trade deadline.

 

[qqaz]

Noooooo.
I have nothing against JBo but Babs will LOVE him and grossly over play him.

See: Hainsey, Ron

You could be right. Babcock had him on team Canada once, and was a big fan...

I think he would be an upgrade on the 3rd pair. And an overplayed Boumeester means less minutes for the currently overplayed Hainsey. So it might help balance things out a bit.

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

Boumeester can play the right side, correct? I think he played on the right for some international tournaments. If so, the Leafs may have interest. It's appealing that it's the last year of his contract, as Toronto will have no cap room next season.

Let's put it this way, I'd expect him to be equally effective on the right.

 

[ThatsSoSlavin]

Jaybo and a second for Andrew neilson (basically ahl dump) takes away salary and give a roster spot