NFL: Cardinals fire Kliff Kingsbury, Steve Keim steps down

[MMC]

 

[Romang67]

... alright, so maybe they're not getting rid of Murray.

 

[TheAngryHank]

Can't see Payton taking this job when the tiny QB is coming back from a torn ACL and may miss most of 2023.

Is Breese coming out of retirement?

 

[GKJ]

That's wild the franchise has been around a century and they've never had a coach last more than 6 seasons.

Kliff should have never gotten that extension anyways.

Ken Wisenhunt has the franchise record with 96 games coached.

Arians has the most wins with 49.

That’s not a lot lol

 

[EpochLink]

Called it!

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Coach Faze Clan confirmed

 

[MMC]

 

[StreetHawk]

What’s better? No QB on Ten or having to deal with Kyler whom you can’t trust to study and are going to be tied to. Plus he is small and doesn’t want to get hit.

 

[DoyleG]

What could possibly go wrong?

 

[Blitzkrug]

Ah yes, giving your immature, whiny manchild of a QB even more power over things. That's just organizational ops 101.

Only thing Kyler should get a say in is where his squad lands in Warzone.

 

[GKJ]

When you pay your QB a zillion dollars, he’s part of the process whether you want him to be or not.

 

[StreetHawk]

When you pay your QB a zillion dollars, he’s part of the process whether you want him to be or not.

For a guy who has been accused of not studying the playbook and playing too many video games, not the ideal person to be offering input on the HC, but like you said, high paid QB gets input.

 

[GKJ]

For a guy who has been accused of not studying the playbook and playing too many video games, not the ideal person to be offering input on the HC, but like you said, high paid QB gets input.

Your coach has to work with the QB, doesn’t matter which side of the ball the coach is on. No team has ever succeeded without there being a rapport there. So it would behoove any team hiring a coach with a QB they’re committed to to have that happen from the start. Candidates probably want that too so they know if the job is good for them, or if they should be renting a house instead of owning.

 

[Troy McClure]

Your coach has to work with the QB, doesn’t matter which side of the ball the coach is on. No team has ever succeeded without there being a rapport there. So it would behoove any team hiring a coach with a QB they’re committed to to have that happen from the start. Candidates probably want that too so they know if the job is good for them, or if they should be renting a house instead of owning.

And media types are really overblowing this. No one said Kyler was going to pick the coach or have a veto. The word used was input. It probably means he'll be there for part of the interview as he should. These interviews last hours and hours. You want your QB to talk to these candidates to see if they are on the same page.

 

[StreetHawk]

And media types are really overblowing this. No one said Kyler was going to pick the coach or have a veto. The word used was input. It probably means he'll be there for part of the interview as he should. These interviews last hours and hours. You want your QB to talk to these candidates to see if they are on the same page.

And the HC candidates will also want to get the rumours cleared up with Kyler. Does he put in the time. Goes both ways. HC roles are few but one bad choice to begin your career and you don’t get another shot most of the time. But also overstaying your time in a coordinator role will hurt if the team falls a bit like it did for Leftwich in TB.

 

[John Price]

 

[StreetHawk]

I would take the 2023 year off if I was Kliff as well. Take a break.

Decide if his next role is NFL OC or NCAA HC. College has changed a lot since he was last at TT with NIL and transfer portal where kids can play right away.

 

[Unholy Diver]

So he's telling them "Don't call me, I'll call you when I need bailed out of a Thai prison"?

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Jesus it's like he's Rambo in the 2nd movie.

 

[Unholy Diver]

Jesus it's like he's Rambo in the 2nd movie.

Yeah let's hope it's more Rambo and less Gary Glitter

 

[TheAngryHank]

Id go there and do nothing but eat for a year.

 

[Babe Ruth]

It really is amazing that the Cards have been able to pull of such long term ineptitude, Even the Browns had a few decades where they were good to great, it almost seems like the Cards just accidentally have 2-3 winning seasons every so often and revert back to being a mess

Bidwell family have basically been terrible owners.
If you're old enough to remember, their last season in St Louis, the stands looked like a USFL game. It was sad, because the Cards had gotten good thru the 70s, and weren't too bad in the early 80s (but were competing in a brutal NFC East at the time).
Like u state, they'll incidentally get good here & there. Plummer had a playoff win in the late 9os & Kurt Warner's short, but epic run.
It's kinda tragic such an 'OG' franchise has been so carelessly managed.

 

[StreetHawk]

Bidwell family have basically been terrible owners.
If you're old enough to remember, their last season in St Louis, the stands looked like a USFL game. It was sad, because the Cards had gotten good thru the 70s, and weren't too bad in the early 80s (but were competing in a brutal NFC East at the time).
Like u state, they'll incidentally get good here & there. Plummer had a playoff win in the late 9os & Kurt Warner's short, but epic run.
It's kinda tragic such an 'OG' franchise has been so carelessly managed.

They’ve gotten great play from QBs later in their careers from Warner and Palmer. But overal haven’t put a good enough roster together. Players will want to go there as the stadium is covered so not out in the blazing heat. Playing surface is grass which also helps.

But need to figure out the roster. Buddha Baker probably the best draft non QB pick in the Kliff era. Who’s the second and third best? That’s probably one of the main problems.

 

[Babe Ruth]

They’ve gotten great play from QBs later in their careers from Warner and Palmer..

Yeah, I should've mentioned Carson Palmer. He played well in Arizona.
I remember the season he was tearing it up, then he & Stanton both got hurt, and Ryan Lindley proceeded to have one of the worse offensive games in playoff history. It was a typical Cardinal disappearing act.

Esiason also had a decent season as a Cardinal later in his career.