Confirmed with Link: [CAR/VAN] Canucks acquire D Ethan Bear (18% retained), C Lane Pederson for 5th Round Pick in '23

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[SeawaterOnIce]

Not a fan of Bear.

Just a total logjam of bottom pairing defensemen now. Guess this means Stillman and/or Dermott is probably out long-term.

 

[Nucker101]

Just thankful it wasn’t Hoglander

 

[Vector]

Not a fan of Bear.

Just a total logjam of bottom pairing defensemen now. Guess this means Stillman and/or Dermott is probably out long-term.

With Dermott being placed on LTIR and Stillman practicing today, I'm guessing it's Dermott.

 

[Bgav]

Retaining salary is a DUB

 

[wonton15]

For only a 5th? Sure

Thank god it wasn’t Hoglander

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Just thankful it wasn’t Hoglander

This x 1000.

I was flabbergasted that that was the Canes' ask.

Bear for a 5th seems like reasonable value - I'm just not sure it materially improves our team at this time. We have a lot of guys around Bear's level. What we're lacking is guys who can take and handle top four minutes without being caved in.

All that said, Bear seems like a terrific human being. From a personnel standpoint, I'm really happy he's a Canuck, and he'll be easy to cheer for.

 

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[Mr. Canucklehead]

 

[timw33]

Bear also had a really bad case of COVID about a year and a half (?) ago and put him on the outside looking in for a Canes core that is pretty deep (funny that Chatfield is one of the guys who pushed him out of course)

When paired with the retention it's a very cheap acquisition with upside that fills a much needed role. If he can regain the form he had with EDM (serviceable middle pair) we will be laughing.

A big part of the deal seems to be us taking on an additional contract and freeing up two slots for CAR.

 

[Canucks LB]

A fifth rounder, and they are retaining, for a young right, handed defenseman, this is a no-brainer, nice trade

 

[Peen]

Sure

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Apparently Lane Pederson is the non-roster player coming to the Canucks.

Lane Pederson Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

Statistics of Lane Pederson, a hockey player from Saskatoon, SASK born Aug 4 1997 who was active from 2013 to 2024.

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Seems like he'll provide Abbotsford with some firepower.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Don’t like it.

Just a continual spinning of the wheels and going nowhere.

This is a Benning type move.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

This x 1000.

I was flabbergasted that that was the Canes' ask.

Bear for a 5th seems like reasonable value - I'm just not sure it materially improves our team at this time. We have a lot of guys around Bear's level. What we're lacking is guys who can take and handle top four minutes without being caved in.

All that said, Bear seems like a terrific human being. From a personnel standpoint, I'm really happy he's a Canuck, and he'll be easy to cheer for.

Teams will not be giving up any top 4 dmen and we don't have the assets to acquire potential or already bona fide top 4 guys.

I guess the next best option is hope that guys like Stillman, Dermott or Bear somehow breakout. Only issue is you start sacrificing assets (2nd, 3rd and now a 5th).

 

[vancityluongo]

I really like Bear, but as others have said, he feels like a redundant piece with so many other small-ish bottom-pairing defensemen on the team, even if he is a RHD.

This is the right acquisition price though. The Hoglander rumour would have been insane.

 

[wonton15]

Don’t like it.

Just a continual spinning of the wheels and going nowhere.

This is a Benning type move.

Basically where it’s at. If we zoom out, a 5th is mostly nothing in the grand scheme. But so will Bear and Pederson be. This does nothing.

 

[Peen]

Teams will not be giving up any top 4 dmen and we don't have the assets to acquire potential or already bona fide top 4 guys.

I guess the next best option is hope that guys like Stillman, Dermott or Bear somehow breakout. Only issue is you start sacrificing assets (2nd, 3rd and now a 5th).

It’s something where you can be like “ok sure whatever” with all of those trades in isolation but when you start adding the sum of what you gave up, there has to be a hit there.

 

[DonnyNucker]

Don’t like it.

Just a continual spinning of the wheels and going nowhere.

This is a Benning type move.

What if Bear is moved at the TDL for a higher pick? Don’t be so short sighted

 

[God]

Don’t like it.

Just a continual spinning of the wheels and going nowhere.

This is a Benning type move.

why don't you like it

seems pretty good to me given we have awful defensive depth on the right side

 

[tantalum]

AHL depth, blueline depth, retained salary for a 5th. That to me is fine. Still don't like picks going out the door but it's not a high pick and well the organization needs depth.

I don't expect much from Bear but I want him to do well. I liked his rookie season but then he just seemed to stop developing. Not shocking in Edmonton but Carolina seems to turn everyone into gold on that blueline that it's concerning Bear was an exception.

Both players are also RFA after this year so potential cost controlled assets in the future.

 

[RutherPlan]

great trade!

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Pettersson, Pettersson and now a Pederson in the organization.

Next up: Jacob Peterson?

 

[credulous]

It’s something where you can be like “ok sure whatever” with all of those trades in isolation but when you start adding the sum of what you gave up, there has to be a hit there.

the justification for literally every player acquisition by fans is always 'they can move them later for a pick' but it never happens