Confirmed with Link: [CAR/FLA] Scott Darling + 2020 6th Round Pick for James Reimer

[DaveG]

The ONLY way this trade makes any sense is if he's our backup next year. If we're planning on Reimer-Forsberg-Ned in net we're beyond f***ed.

 

[MinJaBen]

did you miss that we traded darling in the deal? darling's contract is much worse

I didn’t miss that. Darling’s buyout is much better and Florida was desperate to move Riemer to bring in Bob. We got them out of a jam and paid to do so. The only reason to do this is to save cash, which means we are keeping Riemer ourselves, and with both the Chicago castoff and Ned as low cost backup options already, we will be starting the year with Riemer as our starter.

 

[Anton Babchuk]

how is that any worse than mrazek-forsberg-ned

i'd love to hear an argument as to why reimer is worse than mrazek, other than "last season"

 

[Do Make Say Think]

I was actually hoping for Optimus Reim. He is what the Forsberg addition should have been.

Here's to hoping he isn't the #1 though. And that Florida retained and paid assets.

Edit: they took Darling. Florida does this because Reiner's buyout would have costed them more next year. Allows them more flexibility and gives the Canes a true 1B.

Reimer is not a 1B. If he plays more than 15 to 20 games, you are in big trouble.

 

[Novacane]

There still is hope

 

[Lucky Lindy]

There's your answer.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

I'd love to see Waddell try and sell that. He said a started would be added. Nobody gets a starter for Scott Darling + 6th.

I expect Mrazek/Lehner/Varlamov to still be added. Forsberg to waivers/AHL.

Wouldn't be the first time we've had bull being sold to us?

Remember when we acquired Ponikarovsky and Anthony Stewart and we were assured that they weren't replacing Ruutu (I believe) and we were still hunting for a Top 6 forward?

And then that somehow turned into "Well, we hope the two combined will provide what Ruutu did"

 

[cptjeff]

I mean, Mrazek-Reimer would be great, though it leaves Ned without a spot and I do think we should be easing him into the NHL this year. Not sure how much more he can prove. But until Mrazek signs or we have some other real starter lined up, I'm nervous.

 

[GoldiFox]

I didn’t miss that. Darling’s buyout is much better and Florida was desperate to move Riemer to bring in Bob. We got them out of a jam and paid to do so. The only reason to do this is to save cash, which means we are keeping Riemer ourselves, and with both the Chicago castoff and Ned as low cost backup options already, we will be starting the year with Riemer as our starter.

Hive mind isn't that stupid. I won't accept that. Let's see what Waddell says about Reimer first.

Waddell has repeatedly said the Canes will have a starter. Reimer is not that and you don't get a starter through trading a buyout. Even casual fans know that Darling was less than worthless.

 

[A Star is Burns]

Agreed with everyone. I hope we still get a starter. But I think this is a pretty creative solution to the Darling problem regardless.

 

[Anton Babchuk]

I didn’t miss that. Darling’s buyout is much better and Florida was desperate to move Riemer to bring in Bob. We got them out of a jam and paid to do so. The only reason to do this is to save cash, which means we are keeping Riemer ourselves, and with both the Chicago castoff and Ned as low cost backup options already, we will be starting the year with Riemer as our starter.

this is all based on the assumption that the team isn't trying to sign a number one, which appears to be wrong.

 

[Buenos Necas]

Good trade for both teams, FLA gets a more favorable buyout and we turn dead money into a solid backup/1B type. Glad to see we're still trying to get Mrazek or Varly on top of this.

 

[GoldiFox]

Reimer is not a 1B. If he plays more than 15 to 20 games, you are in big trouble.

Thankfully he'd be the backup 1B with Nedeljkovic. Mrazek (40) + Ned (20) + Reimer (20)

 

[A Star is Burns]

I'm still not jumping to conclusions until Waddell says we're done. Encouraging that we are apparently still poking around

 

[Identity404]

Had a feeling this would happen. Honestly it's a pretty good move if we can sign a better 1a goalie. Didn't think we could find a taker for darling.

 

[MinJaBen]

how is that any worse than mrazek-forsberg-ned

i'd love to hear an argument as to why reimer is worse than mrazek, other than "last season"

Last season is an excellent argument! We know he puts up at least leagues average goaltending behind our guys and they trust him. Now we are back to square one and we will have a younger D-core looking over their shoulders wonder if this guy will be able to bail them out on some mistakes or if he will magnify them. If we aren’t bringing in a guy with bonafides or a history of good performance with us, we are risking a substantial step backwards.

 

[HisIceness]

So this means Mac is gone if they're trying to get Mrazek re-signed or get Varly. On another note though I'm surprised a taker was found for Darling.

 

[Anton Babchuk]

There's your answer.

really shocking that this board freaked out for no reason based on nothing but their imagination

 

[A Star is Burns]

Last season is an excellent argument! We know he puts up at least leagues average goaltending behind our guys and they trust him. Now we are back to square one and we will have a younger D-core looking over their shoulders wonder if this guy will be able to bail them out on some mistakes or if he will magnify them. If we aren’t bringing in a guy with bonafides or a history of good performance with us, we are risking a substantial step backwards.

Or you could argue he was probably worse than mediocre for half his season last year, and then lights out for his second half. Mrazek still has questions, though I'll be happy if we can have him back.

 

[DaveG]

how is that any worse than mrazek-forsberg-ned

i'd love to hear an argument as to why reimer is worse than mrazek, other than "last season"

He's been trending down the last two years, is on the wrong side of 30, and is a career backup.
Mrazek before coming here at least was well under 30, had shown a season of competence with more than 50 games back in 15-16 already, and was better by a decent chunk than Reimer has been the last 3 seasons. His quality starts rate in Florida was worse than Cam frigin Ward's over that same time frame.

If we get a starter from somewhere, whether that's Varly or Mrazek, we're fine. If not we're f***ed.

 

[Buenos Necas]

So this means Mac is gone if they're trying to get Mrazek re-signed or get Varly. On another note though I'm surprised a taker was found for Darling.

Yep, Waddell said yesterday that he'd be playing elsewhere. Apparently he "cut us out of talks" pretty early on.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

What are we going to do with all these goalies?

 

[MinJaBen]

this is all based on the assumption that the team isn't trying to sign a number one, which appears to be wrong.

Sure they are trying. Just like they were trying to keep both Mrazek and McBackup. I bet they are trying, but using this to say to Mrazek that if you don’t accept our lowball salary/term, we will just go with this other guy. Let’s hope Petr blinks first.

 

[HisIceness]

Yep, Waddell said yesterday that he'd be playing elsewhere. Apparently he "cut us out of talks" pretty early on.

Oh well, he was a good solider.

 

[GoldiFox]

What are we going to do with all these goalies?

Forsberg was acquired as an empty contract slot in the De Haan salary dump. He will be lost to waivers or play the Pickard role in the AHL.