Confirmed with Link: CAR/ARIZ: Marcus Kruger (10% retained by CAR), 2018 3rd for Jordan Martinook, 2018 4th

[More Cooley]

I really like Kruger. Nice. Too bad losing Nook tho....

 

[_Del_]

Smart player. Good pker. Good on the dot. Traded Martinook to move up and get another third. Not much actual cash added. One year deal, so we can flip him at the deadline if it isn't working out. Everyone loves a faceoff and pk guy for cheap at the deadline.
I've wanted him a long time. If he can get/stay healthy, I think we'll be very happy with this.
Doesn't necessarily close the door on Richardson, imo, but it'd be on the cheap, which it should be anyway.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

I've wanted him a long time. If he can get/stay healthy, I thibk think we'll be very happy with this.

Apparently he had hernia surgery in the off-season to correct something that was bothering him this year.

 

[Grimes]

Basically we lose a player who can be replaced by Crouse or AHL depth, swap Rich for a potentially equal player in production.. and it costed Carolina 20 or so spots in the draft.

I'm good with this

Good post.

Forgot he was waived, which is concering. But I also tjink Carolinas coaching situation is a little bit....funky.

 

[Grimes]

Apparently he had hernia surgery in the off-season to correct something that was bothering him this year.

Interesting.

 

[_Del_]

I always thought we should have chased him in a cap clearing deal from Chicago. Tipp would have loved him, and when he played up in the line up in Chicago, he always did reasonably well. Should be a great glue guy.

Good luck to Martinook. Tippster has some Hartford connections. Maybe he'll beat out Torchetti, and the Canes get a new 2c

 

[IPreferPi]

I really like Kruger. Nice. Too bad losing Nook tho....

Make or break opportunity for Crouse now.

 

[rt]

Martinook seemed well liked in the room, and Richardson is a key part of what little veteran continuity there is in the valley. Understandable to want to upgrade on those two but Chayka should be careful.

Agreed. Doesn’t really matter but we should be careful about shaking the snow globe.

 

[Neighborhood Coyote]

It's a very lateral move at best if it pans out, assuming Richardson is gone. Kruger has more legs and is more suited to a tempo game but that's about it. The risk is messing with the room, especially with regards to Richardson.

That's assuming Richardson would come back. I agree though... don't wanna mess too much with the turnover this offseason unless the deal is that good to make it happen. IF Rich was gone already... then that was that.

I'm going to miss Martinook though... seemed like a nice guy and hopefully he is successful in Carolina. He was a bachelor all star.

 

[rt]

I don't know any other way to read the "off the ice" comment than Kruger's OEL's buddy.

Or Hjalmarsson. Or maybe Martinook, who was popular, was a little too popular? A little too fun?

 

[The Feckless Puck]

Or Hjalmarsson.

Right after you posted this, someone posted on Twitter that Hjalmarsson called Kruger in a happy tizzy, celebrating the trade.

 

[rt]

Right after you posted this, someone posted on Twitter that Hjalmarsson called Kruger in a happy tizzy, celebrating the trade.

Well good. If paying a 4C gets two top D to stay, then he’s cheap.

 

[Plub]

Interesting. I really liked Nook's game last year. He became more physical and aggressive to better play that 4th lone role. A lot of guys don't do that. Not sure I like this move.

 

[_Del_]

All things entirely possible. I like Martinook. I just don't think he was going to be more than he was here under Tocchet. He's not difficult to replace. Kruger win faceoffs and play center. That is harder to replace, imo. And we trade up. Third is better than a fourth, or ammo to move up and grab a faller on our list in the late first or second.

I got the feeling from some Tocchet comments that Martinook was on the "too comfortable" list.

 

[RABBIT]

Right after you posted this, someone posted on Twitter that Hjalmarsson called Kruger in a happy tizzy, celebrating the trade.

Well good. If paying a 4C gets two top D to stay, then he’s cheap.

Chayka wants to keep his Swedes. Smart move.

 

[RABBIT]

Martinook may have been dangerously close to entering the Pyatt/Moss/Chipchura zone. Great guy off the ice, game trending down on the ice. You can't keep too many guys around just on the fact that they're good teammates.

The biggest presence-hit will be losing Richie.

 

[ParisSaintGermain]

Always liked Martinook, always thought he would be the sort of guy who would shine/get key goals in playoffs when the top players are getting the toughest assignements.

He was a pick that was very hard to swallow at first but he beat all the odds. He challenged, battled and established himself as a regular NHL player.

I will always root for him and wish him every success.

 

[XX]

Make or break opportunity for Crouse now.

Putting Crouse with Kruger and crushing him with hard minutes isn't ideal. I'm not sure he's that player. I think that role would go to Bunting. Bunting - literally anybody - Cousins would be a pretty annoying 4th line. Martinook being 'available' might be due to Bunting's play this year.

 

[ParisSaintGermain]

As for the trade, I cannot complain. I see the logic, I like the third.

This is a deep draft, I would love getting a pick/picks in the late 20s/30s

 

[IPreferPi]

Putting Crouse with Kruger and crushing him with hard minutes isn't ideal. I'm not sure he's that player. I think that role would go to Bunting. Bunting - literally anybody - Cousins would be a pretty annoying 4th line. Martinook being 'available' might be due to Bunting's play this year.

It's not ideal for his offensive development, sure. But Crouse has the skillset to play a shutdown role.

 

[rt]

I posted this on February 9th out on the main board:

I wonder if Carolina would be open to retention at this point. I wouldn't mind adding Kruger if the Canes retained some salary. 25% or something would be fine.

To CAR:
Freddie Hamilton

To ARI:
Marcus Kruger (@75%)

Evens up the contract count, and makes the salary more palatable.

Frees AZ up to go find a new home for Brad Richardson.

 

[rt]

It's not ideal for his offensive development, sure. But Crouse has the skillset to play a shutdown role.

I agree that he has that aptitude and showed some of it previously. Also, I think the damage has largely been done to his offensive development and it’s badically irreparable at this point. Might as well run Crouse-Kruger-Cousins.

 

[Jakey53]

Martinook seemed well liked in the room, and Richardson is a key part of what little veteran continuity there is in the valley. Understandable to want to upgrade on those two but Chayka should be careful.

Kruger is I think isRichardson's replacement and is younger, but what I like is he only has one year remaining on his contract. I would think Richardson wanted a multi year deal, so I like the deal just from that point of view. Losing Martinook hurts a bit, but I really like Crouse and the way it looks so do the Coyotes.

 

[_Del_]

If we didn't potato our way to giving up a second for no good reason, we'd have #5ov, two 2nds and 2 thirds going into the draft...

 

[rt]

If we didn't potato our way to giving up a third for no good reason, we'd have #5ov, two 2nds and 2 thirds going into the draft...

2nd. 34th overall. I f***ing HATE this fact. Just for the privilege or ruining Crouse’s upside. Idiots. Thank god that page has been turned for good.