Confirmed Signing with Link: [CAR] Andrei Svechnikov (8 years, $7.75M AAV)

[Just Linda]

Ive been saying this for a few years but I believe that Svechnikov has the potential to be among the best wingers in the league. Kid is an amazing talent and this contract will look like a steal possibly by the end of this season. Carolina did good to protect their cap structure and are geared for long term success.

 

[Byron Bitz]

It's not the pandemic, it's introducing Tavares into the room. The pandemic cut down long term projections sure but the players looked at recent comparables not the teams long term cap.

Svechnikov's agent didn't have a 10 million dollar contract on the roster to match salaries to. Marner and Matthews could point to the Tavares contract and say "I'm better than him or will be by mid contract, I deserve to get paid the same as him". Svechnikov could only compare himself to Aho and got paid comparably to him.

You realize more comparables come into negotiations than the ones in their own team, right?

 

[King In The North]

Don't know much about Sevecholikov as a player but that's a lot for a player that hasn't won much and has only played 3 seasons.

It's actually not a lot for a player like him and his ceiling. Carolina has had pretty decent playoff runs and are looking to go farther.

 

[Lobodomy]

Big bucks for Ovi's punching bag.

 

[EastVillageBlues]

Congrats Canes; you guys got a good deal on this one.

It will look like one of the best contracts in the league in 2-3 years (aka Draisaitl)

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

That's a great deal with the potential to be excellent.

Where's the clown that said Svechnikov would get $10M?

Was it Dubas?

 

[Willy Stylez]

Good deal and seems fair, would guess 8x8.

 

[Just Linda]

You realize more comparables come into negotiations than the ones in their own team, right?

Yes, internals are historically a bigger indicator of bargains though. The old business quote "bad deals come from the outside, good deals come from within". Without Tavares they could have got Nylander and Marner for cheaper.

 

[flying v 604]

Vancouver fans better hope this helps set the market for Pettersson. This is around what he is worth

Petey on an 8 year deal is worth 9+. He's been basically a ppg who gets as many goals as assists, plays centre and not taking anything away from Svetch but Petey's first 2 seasons were better and this season most likely would have been the same.

 

[Sypher04]

Seems about right, perhaps a touch high based on current body of work. That's totally ok though when you're getting term.

The NHL has been talking as if we shouldn't expect any meaningful cap growth for 3-4 years still (which makes sense given the players owe them like a billion dollars), so could be a really good value contract in the last 2-3 years maybe, but otherwise he'll still need to improve a fair bit to make this the slam dunk great contract some are acting like

 

[Byron Bitz]

Yes, internals are historically a bigger indicator of bargains though. The old business quote "bad deals come from the outside, good deals come from within". Without Tavares they could have got Nylander and Marner for cheaper.

I don’t think so, Tavares was a 27 year old UFA who had already firmly established himself as one of the best centres in the league. He wasn’t a comparable for 21 year old RFA wingers.

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

You mean the same Marner that is at least PPG in the league?

Yes, yes same Marner who can not do a thing in PO.

 

[DEANYOUNGBLOOD17]

Marners been an over a ppg player the last 3 seasons. Svech hasnt.

Marner deal is bad but they not in the same tier.

I would rather have Svech on my team over Marner ( even if Marner was paid 7.75 AAV for the next 8 years)

 

[kp61c]

One of the sides will be crying over this deal in a couple of years. Don't know who, though.

 

[A1LeafNation]

So how much more is Marner worth than Svech?

Marner should have signed a 9-9.5m per deal.

 

[Chips]

Solid deal (assuming he improves. Otherwise still decent), new it would be less than $8mil and not close to $10mil. He’s shown potential to be a $10mil player but he hasn’t actually been that yet, he wasn’t getting that kind of pay day

 

[abo9]

Seems like at in the worst case scenario (barring career-changing injury...), a slight overpayment (if he stagnates as a 60 pts guy)

More than likely is that it's at least gonna be a fair deal, with significant chances of being a great deal for the Canes.

That's great news for the team

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Under 8 is such a steal for 8 seasons... this deal will be such a steal by like year 3 or 4 it's gonna be crazy

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

One of the sides will be crying over this deal in a couple of years. Don't know who, though.

I think that neither side "cries" if said contract is one of the key factors behind multiple Stanley Cups. See what Tampa did as the blueprint here: several players took slightly less than market value in order to add premium depth talent to the roster. Guys that weren't willing to do that were allowed to get their mammoth contracts elsewhere.

 

[shortfuze]

Yes, yes same Marner who can not do a thing in PO.

That’s nice. But why don’t we just stick to the topic at hand.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Under 8 is such a steal for 8 seasons... this deal will be such a steal by like year 3 or 4 it's gonna be crazy

Depends on the cap growth but I tend to agree cause in 3 or 4 years, the cap is going to skyrocket after the NHLPA balance they owe the owners is paid off.

Question: If the Habs wanted to lock up Suzuki for 8 years? What is his AAV when you compare that to Svechnikov? $6.5M - $7M range?

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

Pretty bad deal. Carolina had the opportunity to trade Svechnikov for futures and kickstart the rebuild, but now they're stuck with him.

 

[Sypher04]

Depends on the cap growth but I tend to agree cause in 3 or 4 years, the cap is going to skyrocket after the NHLPA balance they owe the owners is paid off.

Question: If the Habs wanted to lock up Suzuki for 8 years? What is his AAV when you compare that to Svechnikov? $6.5M - $7M range?

Idk, players owe the owners over a billion dollars apparently. I'm not sure how long that'll take to balance

 

[HansonBro]

Not one mention that svech was 2nd on the team in hits. Those are the guys I want on my team.

Super jealous of Carolina right now

 

[notbias]

Yes, yes same Marner who can not do a thing in PO.

Don't look up Svechnikov's playoff performances if you think Marner's are bad.. you may have to change your talking point.