Speculation: Caps General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines etc) - 2021 Regular Season Part 3

[Caps8112]

Did they say why?

Something along the lines of they tried it at the start of the season but their TV setups within the bar weren't working correctly with the stream or wifi or something and the other bartender talked about blacked out games. Idk, sucks because the city has really embraced the team. Everywhere you go has kraken gear and the bars have kraken logos painted on the outside windows and stuff like that.

 

[Misery74]

I won’t hold my breath, but if we can get another TVR-type, I’m game. Would prefer a guy with Cup experience.

I doubt GMBM makes a move.

List is 2022 UFAs:

Players | Puckpedia

 

[Misery74]

Why do some posters care so much about cap space when we have 15mill on injury list we arent spending?

I think it’s more of a prediction of what’s to come once everyone is healthy.

 

[895]

We might never ever be fully healthy though. Other guys will get injured as others come back.

That's why I think there's zero chance Schultz or Hagelin get moved in-season.

Offseason is when I expect Eller and Hagelin to be dealt. Schultz obviously won't be re-signed.

 

[895]

Scalper of men

 

[Hivemind]

Why do some posters care so much about cap space when we have 15mill on injury list we arent spending?

Because LTIR space doesn’t exist once the player comes back from LTIR

 

[Ridley Simon]

not seeing a path that’s not a D group downgrade.

Let’s just say AJF replaces Hags. Just for shits and giggles.

so that leaves a 6m or so slot for a D-man. You don’t think they can find someone that is better than Schultz by using 6m? Heck, many would argue you could find better than Schultz for 3m or so.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Let’s just say AJF replaces Hags. Just for shits and giggles.

so that leaves a 6m or so slot for a D-man. You don’t think they can find someone that is better than Schultz by using 6m? Heck, many would argue you could find better than Schultz for 3m or so.

so you’re suggesting a big $ D man to play 3rd pair, or are we shaking up a couple of pairs to accommodate this add?

I’m guessing a guy of that cap hit (who is good) will cost a 1st plus at the deadline…..

Feels like another potential Shattendeuce scenario.

I’m against tinkering and that’s what this all feels like given their record, but I’m also always up for a smart hockey trade if we can find one.

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

In our last six games our defense has allowed one goal or less four times. And we want to play fantasy GM and trade people?

 

[zappa4ever]

Haven't paid attention to fancy stats (nor care) on Schultz this season but seems to me he's been holding his own at worst, and been at least pretty solid and more than competent, getting around 17-18min./gm

I think Lavi/McCarthy deserve a lot of credit for getting this team all on the same page and playing a system

 

[maacoshark]

In our last six games our defense has allowed one goal or less four times. And we want to play fantasy GM and trade people?

If we make any trades I'd rather trade for picks so we can make room for one or two of the young guns.

 

[crab]

Why do some posters care so much about cap space when we have 15mill on injury list we arent spending?

umm because the Caps wouldn’t have had to add assets to get rid of a player like Panik if they didn’t overpay for him and Hagelin for what they bring. Also, the Caps had to move on from Dillon because of the cap, it has worked out well so far but being tight to the cap and having bad contracts like Hagelin reduces flexibility.

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

umm because the Caps wouldn’t have had to add assets to get rid of a player like Panik if they didn’t overpay for him and Hagelin for what they bring. Also, the Caps had to move on from Dillon because of the cap, it has worked out well so far but being tight to the cap and having bad contracts like Hagelin reduces flexibility.

We moved on from Dillon because he sucked provided no offense and took stupid penalties every game that cost us

 

[Hivemind]

We moved on from Dillon because he sucked provided no offense and took stupid penalties every game that cost us

I think you'll find yourself pretty alone in that opinion

 

[ClevelandCapsfan]

Because LTIR space doesn’t exist once the player comes back from LTIR

I think you'll find yourself pretty alone in that opinion

No that’s kind of how I remember his contributions to the Caps.

 

[Baszie]

Haven't paid attention to fancy stats (nor care) on Schultz this season but seems to me he's been holding his own at worst, and been at least pretty solid and more than competent, getting around 17-18min./gm

I think Lavi/McCarthy deserve a lot of credit for getting this team all on the same page and playing a system

If you would have cared, the stats would confirm the eyes, that we would have been much better without him. TVR is somewhat concealing how much he sucks.

 

[txpd]

No that’s kind of how I remember his contributions to the Caps.

That might well mean that you dont appreciate the skill set that he brought. Which is fine, but he had a job to do. He was pretty good at what the team was asking him to do.

 

[Dr John Carlson]

I remember people on average being mostly satisfied with what Dillon brought. The penalties sucked, but he's a capable 2nd pairing guy.

 

[Ridley Simon]

so you’re suggesting a big $ D man to play 3rd pair, or are we shaking up a couple of pairs to accommodate this add?

I’m guessing a guy of that cap hit (who is good) will cost a 1st plus at the deadline…..

Feels like another potential Shattendeuce scenario.

I’m against tinkering and that’s what this all feels like given their record, but I’m also always up for a smart hockey trade if we can find one.

Let’s say Giordano. Just for fun. You think he’d somehow weaken the team? Sure, he’d prob cost a first, but?

 

[txpd]

Interesting note from last night. The Sharks' crew said that Oshie came to the rink in his boot still. That he went from boot going into the locker room to skate coming out.

 

[tenken00]

Let’s say Giordano. Just for fun. You think he’d somehow weaken the team? Sure, he’d prob cost a first, but?

I've seen some Giordano mentions here, and it might make sense on paper. I just wonder how the fit would be next to Carlson if you are replacing Fever with Giordano. One of the things that has helped pair Fever with Carlson (and Kempny with Carlson in 2018 and 2019) was the mobility. Giordano at age 38 isn't really known for that. And you aren't just going out to get Giordano for the 3rd pairing with TvR as the 5th or 6th defenseman. And not sure you want to break up the Orlov-Jensen pairing so soon right after they are reunited.

It's a tricky situation because Schultz is a 5th or 6th guy. An overpaid 5th or 6th dman, but still a 5th or 6th dman. If you are aiming for something higher, you are going to have to break something up in the top 4.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Let’s say Giordano. Just for fun. You think he’d somehow weaken the team? Sure, he’d prob cost a first, but?

steep price, so the big upgrade stays on the 3rd pair or are we shuffling 2 pairs?

 

[Hivemind]

Demoting Fehervary and pushing TvR out of the lineup to play Giordano would make the team actively worse on 2 of its 3 pairings than it is currently.

 

[twabby]

Unless Fehervary falls apart or someone gets injured I don't really see a big move needed on the blue line. Maybe if they want a depth 7th guy or whatever that's fine.

If they are going to make a big move I think targeting a legit top 6 forward, either center or wing, makes more sense. I know it'd break some brains here but Filip Forsberg would be a perfect target if Nashville decides to move on from him. And everyone else knows my desire for Hertl if Backstrom can't perform at a top 6 level when he returns.

Their defense right now is great, but while the goal-scoring is there the offensive chance generation still leaves a bit to be desired. They're just middle of the pack in that category at 5v5, and for as good as Backstrom has been on the PP chance generation at 5v5 hasn't been his strong suit of late. For a team that has had dreadful scoring depth the past few postseasons I wouldn't mind loading up on a legit top 6 forward to try to help boost that.

 

[Kalopsia]

Demoting Fehervary and pushing TvR out of the lineup to play Giordano would make the team actively worse on 2 of its 3 pairings than it is currently.

I think the idea would be to ship Schultz out in the same deal, slide TVR to 3RD, and put Giordano at 3LD. I haven’t been following Seattle so I’m not sure how Giordano’s looking right now, but as long as he’s not a shell of his former self Giordano-TVR would be an insane 3rd pairing.

That said, twabby’s probably right that if the Caps make a big splash at the deadline, it’ll be to replace one of Backstrom or Mantha if one of them isn’t back yet. Really starting to wonder if we might end up pulling a Kucherov with Backstrom. If he’s not back by the trade deadline, why not?