Series Discussion: Capitals vs Islanders

[EroCaps]

Tired of the Holtby disrespect guys. Go back and watch the 2018 SC run -- it was ALL Hotlby.

Yes, he has been shaky this series, but please be a little more respectful with your criticisms. The guy is a Caps legend.

This just isn't true. Holtby had been benched to start the playoffs, then came in for Grubauer and played above average hockey.

He's been pretty bad for 3 years.

Kuznetsov, Ovechkin, and Eller were beasts in 2018.

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

This just isn't true. Holtby had been benched to start the playoffs, then came in for Grubauer and played above average hockey.

He's been pretty bad for 3 years.

Kuznetsov, Ovechkin, and Eller were beasts in 2018.

And Orlov-Niskanen were a legit shutdown pair who, along with a healthy Kempny and Carlson, formed a terrific top four on defense. Orpik-Djoos was an excellent 3rd pair as well.

 

[Ridley Simon]

The won in 18 due to the depth scoring. Which we’ve seen ....umm....zero goals from this playoffs?

Maybe game 1 had someone outside top 6 scoring. I can’t remember who had both goals.

games 2-4 were all by Kuz (2) or Ovy (4).

teams that win series get goals from bottom 6 and D. Do we can’t/don’t, it’s over anyway, no matter what happens tonite.

edit — GM 1 was Oshie w 2G. So we have 3 players ....let that sink in ....THREE that have scored goals in the 4 games.

 

[Corby78]

The won in 18 due to the depth scoring. Which we’ve seen ....umm....zero goals from this playoffs?

Maybe game 1 had someone outside top 6 scoring. I can’t remember who had both goals.

games 2-4 were all by Kuz (2) or Ovy (4).

teams that win series get goals from bottom 6 and D. Do we can’t/don’t, it’s over anyway, no matter what happens tonite.

edit — GM 1 was Oshie w 2G. So we have 3 players ....let that sink in ....THREE that have scored goals in the 4 games.

yeah this is a very disturbing stat right now. The. Look at what NYI has done. Now I understand they don’t have an Ovie so they have to get more balanced scoring, but I think they have 10 goal scorers right now.

 

[Futures Passed]

So, I guess RIP GDT.

 

[francaisvolantsparis]

And Orlov-Niskanen were a legit shutdown pair who, along with a healthy Kempny and Carlson, formed a terrific top four on defense. Orpik-Djoos was an excellent 3rd pair as well.

Our D was 10-15% better in 2018 and Carlson was not hurt:

Player	SAPV 3.0	Player	SAPV 3.0
Dmitry Orlov	25.39	Matt Niskanen	11.38
Michal Kempny	6.98	John Carlson	31.80
Brooks Orpik	6.40	Christian Djoos	9.27
		SUMM	91.23
Player	SAPV 3.0	Player	SAPV 3.0
Dmitry Orlov	25.39	Nick Jensen	4.04
Brenden Dillon	5.84	John Carlson	31.80
Jonas Siegenthaler	3.18	Radko Gudas	10.62
		SUMM	80.87

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

*SAPV 3.0 is the Smart Advanced Player Value stat 3.0

 

[Hivemind]

This just isn't true. Holtby had been benched to start the playoffs, then came in for Grubauer and played above average hockey.

He's been pretty bad for 3 years.

Kuznetsov, Ovechkin, and Eller were beasts in 2018.

"Above average hockey?" Are you kidding me?

He turned the Columbus series around with his play in goal after they were down 0-2. He made 33 saves to get them to 2OT in game 3, including on a breakaway in the 2nd period. He outdueled the Pens in round 2. He completely dominated the Lightning in games 6 and 7 of that series, with the two shutouts to help the Caps reclaim that series. And then obviously "The Save" in the finals, where he was terrific from game 2 onwards.

They don't win that Cup without Holtby.


The ire towards Holtby by some here is well beyond absurd.