Post-Game Talk: Capitals 5, Penguins 3: And Now We Wait on the Mad Hatter

[Al Smith]

He is not piece of trash. No one playing for our entertainment is piece of trash. he is a solid AHL player who was giving a role to play over 12 minutes against one of the most explosive teams in NHL. I watched him closely, he had more good plays than bad plays tonight, he wasn't at his best for that goal, but its not like other five Penguins defensamn do better job in the crease, asctually they all suck...Letang and JJ can't even make it in the crease to busy chasing each other behind the goal...

I thought he was better than he was yesterday, except on that goal. Other than Petts, most of the D played well in the first two periods and then imploded in the third.

 

[AlphaMikeFoxtrots]

this thread is an adventure

i'm pretty trigger-happy with my ignore function, and these past couple games i've had to use it a lot more than usual because there sure are a bunch of you that have crawled out of the woodwork, sheesh

anyway, listened to highlights on the drive home, and i was really hoping petts would settle in with no contract negotiations hanging over his head, but he's taken another step back

i'm in the camp of the defense is a tire fire that's finally burning everyone rn. hopefully relief is in sight, but tough sledding rn

there are certainly other issues with the forward mix, but the defense is the bigger trouble

i wish i could be sedated until tomorrow evening

 

[ChaosAgent]

Rank the Penguins Defense right now (after Letang):

1. Gonchar



Pettersson
Schultz
Riikola
Ruhwedel
Johnson

Trotman

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I genuinely think Marino's loss may have more of an impact than Jake's. Marino's been our best blueliner this season in terms of valuing the entire season as a whole. Letang's had better highs, but Marino's been consistently amazing. Letang's had some absolute stinkers.

That's big praise for a rookie that Stevens just happened to find and tell JR to get.

 

[ChaosAgent]

I genuinely think Marino's loss may have more of an impact than Jake's. Marino's been our best blueliner this season in terms of valuing the entire season as a whole. Letang's had better highs, but Marino's been consistently amazing. Letang's had some absolute stinkers.

That's big praise for a rookie that Stevens just happened to find and tell JR to get.

The more I watch the modern NHL, the more I think that defensemen are more important than forwards.

That's why I never mind when people talk about "our $30M defense" or whatever. I have no issue with devoting 40% of my cap to that position. It just has to be the right players. I think D#4-6 is very much in question right now.

 

[Al Smith]

I genuinely think Marino's loss may have more of an impact than Jake's. Marino's been our best blueliner this season in terms of valuing the entire season as a whole. Letang's had better highs, but Marino's been consistently amazing. Letang's had some absolute stinkers.

That's big praise for a rookie that Stevens just happened to find and tell JR to get.

Hmm. I don't know if it's been as big a loss as Jake, but his presence made Dumo's absence tolerable. With both of them gone, we see what a mess the rest of the D is without their stabilizing influence. Imagine if Marino had been playing at Harvard all year.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Hmm. I don't know if it's been as big a loss as Jake, but his presence made Dumo's absence tolerable. With both of them gone, we see what a mess the rest of the D is without their stabilizing influence. Imagine if Marino had been playing at Harvard all year.

I'd argue his absence has been as big or more of an issue than Jake's, imo. It's been like night and day since Marino went down, totally different team. Losing Jake sucks, for sure, but we were still puttering along alright without him. We're obviously better with him, but we were doing alright. This team looks brutal without Marino--completely lost way too often.

 

[wgknestrick]

Please read the original post where it was inferring Crosby has health issues. That’s what I was questioning.

But thanks for the pictures. It looks like Sidney Crosby is a bad player.

Hardly. The take-away is that he has been slightly worse at preventing goals as he has been at creating them. He should/needs to be better.

 

[3074326]

The more I watch the modern NHL, the more I think that defensemen are more important than forwards.

That's why I never mind when people talk about "our $30M defense" or whatever. I have no issue with devoting 40% of my cap to that position. It just has to be the right players. I think D#4-6 is very much in question right now.

The Pens won a cup with Ron Hainsey on the top pair, though. If anything the team you're posting about is proof of the opposite.

 

[EightyOne]

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I can only imagine who some of these replies are going to because I have several people ignored. Judging by the convos, I'd rather not know. Yikes.

I unblocked some wankers, kind of wish I didn't. Even worse when they have usernames of players you are a fan of.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Never trust any player usernames unless they're Rico_F@tass, RIP to the OG.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Never trust any player usernames unless they're Rico_F@tass, RIP to the OG.

Lol, was there someone with that username?

 

[HandshakeLine]

Lol, was there someone with that username?

Nah, one of the gimmick posters on the old Pens official forums. A bunch of us used to post there during the Gen X years.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Nah, one of the gimmick posters on the old Pens official forums. A bunch of us used to post there during the Gen X years.

I used to post elsewhere during those days, mostly just random message boards, until I came across this place over a decade ago and just read stuff, wasn't compelled to join until 2012.

So many have had username changes, I don't recognize who the older group is anymore.

 

[HandshakeLine]

I'm too egotistical to change my user name more than whenever it stops being funny.

 

[Angrrus]

Now I see that in the previous 2 (embarrassing) games Pens were saving all their energy, effort, focus and talent for the Caps game... OH WAIT...

 

[Ms Maggie]

Well the only good thing is they played better than the previous two games. Had some good shots, just no puck luck.
Petts, yikes. Actually felt badly for him. He took some big hits, needs to bulk up some. Defense just poor overall. Don't get the comments re Simon, thought he had a decent game.

Well shake it off boys.

 

[ChaosAgent]

Petts, yikes. Actually felt badly for him. He took some big hits, needs to bulk up some. Defense just poor overall. Don't get the comments re Simon, thought he had a decent game.

Well shake it off boys.

I have been pounding this drum but yikes...maybe the frame truly isn't there. Looks like a marathon runner. Or Kevin Durant/Brandon Ingram if you're familiar with those basketball players.

Are there any 25-30 year old Dmen out there with a BMI of 22? BMI is flawed but illustrative here.

Dumo: 25
JJ: 30
Letang: 27
Marino: 24
Riiks: 25.6
Ruh: 26.5
Schultz: 25
Petts: 22

For Ss and Gs I looked at Tampa's defensemen too...the LOWEST is Cam Gaunce at 25.5. Even Maatta is 26. So yeah I am officially concerned that we gave a stick figure a ton of money.

 

[Ms Maggie]

I have been pounding this drum but yikes...maybe the frame truly isn't there. Looks like a marathon runner. Or Kevin Durant/Brandon Ingram if you're familiar with those basketball players.

Are there any 25-30 year old Dmen out there with a BMI of 22? BMI is flawed but illustrative here.

Dumo: 25
JJ: 30
Letang: 27
Marino: 24
Riiks: 25.6
Ruh: 26.5
Schultz: 25
Petts: 22

For Ss and Gs I looked at Tampa's defensemen too...the LOWEST is Cam Gaunce at 25.5. Even Maatta is 26. So yeah I am officially concerned that we gave a stick figure a ton of money.

Well the Caps agree w you. They targeted him all thru the game. Only hope here is he's pretty young so might be able to add significant pounds/muscle with pro conditioning/nutrition help.

 

[Deport Ogie]

Then we better trade off POJ post haste, his BMI comes out about 20.7.

 

[PaulD]

yep. All garbage type goals for the caps. pebs need to play better in that area.

And on the other end, except for hornq everyone plays like they’re afraid to get hit around the caps net

if they don’t change that, they’ll be out of the playoffs quickly

Yep

 

[ChaosAgent]

Then we better trade off POJ post haste, his BMI comes out about 20.7.

He will certainly be bigger by the time he arrives here.

 

[HandshakeLine]

He will certainly be bigger by the time he arrives here.

9 out 10 doctors recommend the 3 P's- a diet of Primanti's, pierogis, and pop.

 

[ChaosAgent]

9 out 10 doctors recommend the 3 P's- a diet of Primanti's, pierogis, and pop.

Peanut Putter too.

I swear I wouldn't be so argumentative on this if people could name me some really good defensemen at 6'3 and 175 but I am drawing a blank.

Edit: Jk I'd still argue it. But give a fella a comparable to dream on ya know.