News Article: Cap Friendly: Determining the Off-Season Cap Space of the Maple Leafs

[deletethis]

Yet another example of the lazy people who populate the media stealing someone else's (CapFriendly's) story. I feel like I've sleepwalked for decades believing these media people have any credibility as hard working, principled, objective, honest people. Probably so much propaganda over the years reading their self-promotion. Stepping back now having purged myself of conventional newspapers and network news, the image has come into focus: they're mostly (not fair to say all) narcissists desperate to be admired and noticed.

/rant

 

[mouser]

Cap friendly also changed the definition of SOIR within the last two weeks or so.

I trust Lou much more than I do Cap Friendly.

Plus I trust the people I talk to and they lineup with what Lou has been saying. Don't worry. The media will catch up, then the masses will too.

Capfriendly didn't change their definition of SOIR. They discovered that people were misinterpreting what SOIR is and updated their FAQ to eliminate that confusion.

 

[Barilko14]

Cap friendly also changed the definition of SOIR within the last two weeks or so.

I trust Lou much more than I do Cap Friendly.

Plus I trust the people I talk to and they lineup with what Lou has been saying. Don't worry. The media will catch up, then the masses will too.

Well hopefully you are right.

So if the Brown contract drags on it has more to do with a gap in the negotiations, and less to due with limited cap space in your opinion.

 

[SprDaVE]

CapFriendly updated their article with the recent findings of James Mirtle:

https://www.capfriendly.com/article...g-the-off-season-cap-space-of-the-maple-leafs

What about LTIR? (Updated)
As explained by James Mirtle, it has recently been revealed that LTIR can in fact be utilized in the off-season. Previously it was understood that this was not possible, and LTIR could only be used leading into the season on the final day of training camp. With this news, it is likely that Horton has already been placed on LTIR, allowing the Leafs to exceed the salary cap of $82.5M, and therefore they have enough space to sign RFA Connor Brown.

Looks like the Leafs do not have to clear cap space to re-sign Brown after all.

 

[MJ65]

CapFriendly updated their article with the recent findings of James Mirtle:

https://www.capfriendly.com/article...g-the-off-season-cap-space-of-the-maple-leafs



Looks like the Leafs do not have to clear cap space to re-sign Brown after all.

Thanks Dave - have posted this info on trade thread but it's very odd that Mirtle has to update this info for Capfriendly (directly or indirectly)

 

[Eb]

CapFriendly updated their article with the recent findings of James Mirtle:

https://www.capfriendly.com/article...g-the-off-season-cap-space-of-the-maple-leafs



Looks like the Leafs do not have to clear cap space to re-sign Brown after all.

I don't understand how something like this need confirmation from Bill Daley. How is this not explicitly stated in the CBA?

 

[ShaneFalco]

CapFriendly updated their article with the recent findings of James Mirtle:

https://www.capfriendly.com/article...g-the-off-season-cap-space-of-the-maple-leafs



Looks like the Leafs do not have to clear cap space to re-sign Brown after all.

But it has to be now!

 

[Cor]

It's hilarious how much the Leafs know that other teams don't.

Other teams are literally being like "what are the Leafs gonna do!?"

Lou and Prindham are just sitting there sipping martini's.

We have around 5M to sign Brown, and will get another 4-5M when Lupul goes on LTIR, if he isn't already.

 

[1specter]

CapFriendly updated their article with the recent findings of James Mirtle:

https://www.capfriendly.com/article...g-the-off-season-cap-space-of-the-maple-leafs



Looks like the Leafs do not have to clear cap space to re-sign Brown after all.

Weird, almost like Lou and Pridham knew what they were doing all along. Hopefully the hand-wringing about cap space stops now with this clarification.

 

[4thline]

Weird, almost like Lou and Pridham knew what they were doing all along. Hopefully the hand-wringing about cap space stops now with this clarification.

Maybe giving them too much credit but noticed something that made me happy. The handling/ drafting of 96 born players through the 2015 and 2016 drafts has left us with

Timashov Dermott and Neilsen all having completed three pro years by the time Marleau's 3rd season/ the Marner/Matthews extensions come around but still having an elc year because of the late birthday slide rule. ****** for the players but it bought us a free year of development. Similarly sending Brooks back without an ELC means that he'll be on one as well, and drafting Korshkov overage out of Russia with the ability to stash him there.

 

[zeke]

guys, we really shouldn't worry about our FO's ability to handle the cap.

 

[Warden of the North]

Weird, almost like Lou and Pridham knew what they were doing all along. Hopefully the hand-wringing about cap space stops now with this clarification.

No, couldnt be!

 

[zeke]

I don't understand how something like this need confirmation from Bill Daley. How is this not explicitly stated in the CBA?

you put too much faith in the idea that the media would bother to read the cba, or even be able to understand all the ramifications of the legalese if they did.

 

[Territory]

Mirtle is a beauty.

If the Leafs are going into LTIR anyway they should use it. Mike Green perhaps? 6m for 1 year, use up Lupuls LTIR. Might as well try and use it.

 

[mouser]

Mirtle is a beauty.

If the Leafs are going into LTIR anyway they should use it. Mike Green perhaps? 6m for 1 year, use up Lupuls LTIR. Might as well try and use it.

Even with Mirtle's update, CF is projecting the Leafs to be about $7m over on opening day (assuming Brown signs for ~$3m). With a theoretical max LTIR benefit of $10.5m from Horton/Lupul (note: teams usually can't get 100% relief) it would require moving salary out to fit Green.

 

[LeafFever]

CapFriendly updated their article with the recent findings of James Mirtle:

https://www.capfriendly.com/article...g-the-off-season-cap-space-of-the-maple-leafs



Looks like the Leafs do not have to clear cap space to re-sign Brown after all.

What an embarrassment. How did all these media people not know?

Trust our management. they know better than anyone.

 

[LeafFever]

Even with Mirtle's update, CF is projecting the Leafs to be about $7m over on opening day (assuming Brown signs for ~$3m). With a theoretical max LTIR benefit of $10.5m from Horton/Lupul (note: teams usually can't get 100% relief) it would require moving salary out to fit Green.

don't think that number is right.

 

[Eternal Leaf]

Damn, the media has run with that nonsense for years.

 

[Incetardis]

I think we do 2 things.

1. We trade JVR or Komarov
2. We trade Marchenko and Marincin for next to nothing

I think one of those 2 D are the likely move. Unless they can work their magic and get a decent return for JVR

 

[Marshy]

guys, we really shouldn't worry about our FO's ability to handle the cap.

The worriers would just find something else to worry about, no?

 

[mouser]

don't think that number is right.

It's their guess at the opening day roster. You can add or subtract individual players (and cap hits) from their roster list to come up with your own roster list and cap total.

 

[The CyNick]

CapFriendly updated their article with the recent findings of James Mirtle:

https://www.capfriendly.com/article...g-the-off-season-cap-space-of-the-maple-leafs



Looks like the Leafs do not have to clear cap space to re-sign Brown after all.

oh wow, so basically, exactly what I said is true.

Colour me shocked.

Media caught up finally. Good for them.

 

[Battle Lin]

i trust the guys upstairs, why would they sign marleau for im hoping at least 2 good years and sign hyman knowing that they cant sign brown, brown is part of core moving forward 100%

 

[Damisoph]

guys, we really shouldn't worry about our FO's ability to handle the cap.

group think! We MUST hold them accountable! Power to the people.

 

[Damisoph]

CapFriendly updated their article with the recent findings of James Mirtle:

https://www.capfriendly.com/article...g-the-off-season-cap-space-of-the-maple-leafs



Looks like the Leafs do not have to clear cap space to re-sign Brown after all.

This makes me laugh. All the consternation from fans, honestly Like the team would put themselves in a position where they could lose a guy like Brown to an offer sheet.