Confirmed with Link: Canucks sign defenseman Philip Holm (Vaxjo Lakers, SHL)
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I don't know about really good. His defensive game was competent but he was brought in for his offense and delivered basically none.
I do agree that he was much worse after returning from injury though.
Sorry, but at no point last season did Larsen 'look really good'....was a disaster with whomever he was paired with....brought 'zero offense' to the table and swatted away like a fly in his own zone....in fact if he hadn't been so bad, I doubt Stecher would have gotten a shot and likely spent the entire year in Utica....so that's one positive.
Yeah I agree i was never impressed with the guy. We were kinda harsh on him and felt kinda bad about it esp when he got knocked out by Hall cause he seems like a nice guy but ice hockey at the NHL level just aint his thing. Bad loss of a late round pick but not the biggest of problems our team has so guess time to move on
And moving on to Holm sounds like a good player and i guess one benefit of being this bad of a team is attracting some free agents like him cause he will get a better chance here then a place like Chicago or Anahiem or wherever. Hopefully the Radyysh guy decides here too. We will see
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I think this just continually shows the ridiculous state this franchise is in.
Log on and am surprised to see people still talking about this new depth signing, so click hmm what could they be saying. And it's Larsen talk....
Canucks sign a depth dman last year who turns out to be nothing more than that. But because of how he is viewed and communicated to the market through these fantasy glasses that Benning scouts his pro players with - he is coming in to fix the pp etc and is expressed as being a missing piece.
Now it's a year later, he's out of the league again (like some of Benning's other gems he signs/trades for on a yearly basis) and people are still talking about him.
I am not criticizing you guys for talking about Larsen, but just the fact that things are so bad that he is still coming up. When it's a horror story there is no point in turning the page, I get it - I wouldn't want to either.
Log on and am surprised to see people still talking about this new depth signing, so click hmm what could they be saying. And it's Larsen talk....
Canucks sign a depth dman last year who turns out to be nothing more than that. But because of how he is viewed and communicated to the market through these fantasy glasses that Benning scouts his pro players with - he is coming in to fix the pp etc and is expressed as being a missing piece.
Now it's a year later, he's out of the league again (like some of Benning's other gems he signs/trades for on a yearly basis) and people are still talking about him.
I am not criticizing you guys for talking about Larsen, but just the fact that things are so bad that he is still coming up. When it's a horror story there is no point in turning the page, I get it - I wouldn't want to either.
Holm did beat out +10 Swedish NHL(-ish) D-men for the national team. Most of them borderline NHL-ers.
But some of them actually have an ordinary position at their respective teams, i.e. actual NHL-players as Gunnarsson, Oduya and J. Ericsson (might be injuries there but I have not read about it and I have not seen that they did get the offer to play at the WC).
Many of the selected D-men where offensive D-men so Holm might have had something to offer with his defensive play.
But some of them actually have an ordinary position at their respective teams, i.e. actual NHL-players as Gunnarsson, Oduya and J. Ericsson (might be injuries there but I have not read about it and I have not seen that they did get the offer to play at the WC).
Many of the selected D-men where offensive D-men so Holm might have had something to offer with his defensive play.
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As would anyone else of those who where not selected. Point is, a not very opaque one, he did beat out a bunch of ppl already in the NHL-circus. He did so probably because he had something other to offer (not necessarily better.
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He doesn't seem to have the physical game that compares, but I'd like to see if he can carve out what Carl Gunnarson is now for the Blues, a 5/6 depth defenceman who is mobile enough to the NHL but really doesn't excel at anything. Just an all around every day player. That'd be the high water mark of potential I'd try to keep for this guy, that way if he's just #1 in Utica we aren't all that disappointed.
Hell, anyone else consider just keeping him in Utica if he's at all any good to stay away from the tirefire mess that will be Vancouver next season?
Hell, anyone else consider just keeping him in Utica if he's at all any good to stay away from the tirefire mess that will be Vancouver next season?
Really a zero-risk signing.....kinda' shocked that a guy who's 25 and spent as long as he has in the SHL, is even eligible to sign an entry-level contract....but it's only for a year, and he can even be sent to the minors without having to clear waivers....and if nothing else, reports are the Canucks signed him out from under the noses of the Leafs and Hawks, so that's a positive.
Absolutely.
He's pretty unlikely to be some sort of impact player.
But if he could be an 18-minute #4-5 Gunnarsson type who skates well, plays a low event game, and makes a good first pass, and is on a cheap contract, that would be a major win.
Looking forward to seeing him in preseason and what exactly we have here.
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he never looked particularly good offensively. almost right away you realized he needed to be 20 feet in from the blueline for his shot to get through or be dangerous.
but he looked like a mobile top 4 all rounder for about the first 5 games. then he started getting hit and then he adjusted his game to avoid being hit and then he really got hit.
i think he is literally too skinny to play in the nhl. there is just no way to adapt that frame.
Really a zero-risk signing.....kinda' shocked that a guy who's 25 and spent as long as he has in the SHL, is even eligible to sign an entry-level contract....but it's only for a year, and he can even be sent to the minors without having to clear waivers....and if nothing else, reports are the Canucks signed him out from under the noses of the Leafs and Hawks, so that's a positive.
Helps having team Sweden on the Canucks
Craig Button was saying that he was familiar with Larsen in the Dallas organization...said that "Larsen is not an NHL calibre player"
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Another solid, reasonable move by Benning. Thus supporting my theory that when given a reasonable objective that is achievable, he can be a solid GM.
Will love to see the results on the ice next year. Hope for the best. Go nux go!!
Will love to see the results on the ice next year. Hope for the best. Go nux go!!
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Another one?!
Man, I'm running out of fingers counting all Benning's solid, reasonable moves. I might have to use the other hand soon!
I admire your blind faith. Will check back after several miserable years to see how you're doing then.
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But Holm clearly going to have a better year than Larsen, right? Come on... it's not a high bar.
If we trade Tanev, are you okay with Holm as D4? Or Gudbranson / Jordan Subban as D4?
If we trade Tanev, are you okay with Holm as D4? Or Gudbranson / Jordan Subban as D4?
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Why couldn't Holm be worse than Larsen?
Were you one of the people who said there was no way that Larsen could be worse than Weber?
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I was hoping Larsen would be better than Weber...
Yeah.. not sure why I think Holm can't be worse than Larsen...
But Larsen was so underwhelming... the speed and explosiveness of his skating ability in his youtube highlights in the KHL the year before he came to the Canucks was never on display .. not even a second or glimpse of that speed...
