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[sting101]

I think Lekk is closer than you think (he's already playing in a mens league)...You'll have him on a number of years on a ELC...Certainly gives the team more room to manoeuvre.

Guentzel (a pending UFA) is seeking $8M per (with substantial term), on a retirement deal (the Miller contract)..Do we want to go down that road again ?...Miller and Guentzel aren't that far apart in age, they will be on the downswing together.

Guenther should be asking for 12 million if Nylander is the market

 

[vancityluongo]

i'd happily pay a premium package (lek ++) for konecny. really not sold on guentzel holding up long term, and he'll cost a lot more starting next year

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

The dude scores most of his goals near the net/slot and is a proven playoff performer. But age and contract wise he’s not ideal

 

[Peter Griffin]

Wilds are missing the playoffs

I wonder what would it cost to get Eriksson Ek, a 60 pts 2C making 5m til 2029…

1st + 2nd + Ep2 + Kuz ?

Add Willander.

 

[bossram]

Eye-of the beholder, right? Do Brz and Podkolzin count or are only Lekkerimaki and Willander in that group? Do they want a player with term or are willing to take on a upcoming UFA (Myers as an example)? Does Aman count? Do they want a 1st now or prefer later? From what Dhaliwal is describing, that's a pretty standard rental asking price.

Yes. It's basically the "asking price" for every reasonably good player that is ever available.

Horvat was traded for a 1st, top prospect, and a player. There's a lot of room for interpretation to determine what assets would meet the criteria for a Guentzel trade.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Jake is as tough as they come.

His size has not been an issue at any point in his career. His main injury in his career was a cheapshot by Chabot after a celly.

Guentzel would be a near perfect add for Elias Pettersson's wing. But, it would likely only be for one year. If he's leaving PIT, I imagine it's because we can't agree on a contract and there is no reason for him to not cash in after signing such a sweetheart deal during his prime. 9.5 x 7 is the starting point for him IMO.

I do think Vancouver and PIT make a lot of sense though. If the Canucks package Kuzmenko, a 1st and a player like Podkolzin for Jake it allows PIT to pretend they are competitive this year, but are also "building for the future".

If the deal is Hoglander, Podkolzin and a 1st like Canucks Media is "projecting", I would also bite, but some form of cap has to come back to PIT right? Could see PIT biting on Myers tbh...

So, Guentzel for Hoglander, Podkolzin, Myers and a 1st with some retention on Myers to make it fair cap wise?

Kuzmenko deal makes more sense. As muck flak as Myers gets, he still fill a role here and if he’s moved in a deal like this they’d have to replace him and are now down a 1st and Podkolzin.

 

[TruGr1t]

Donnie and Dhali mentioned Eriksson Ek on the show today, but sounded more like a wishlist thing than any sort of rumor etc.

 

[bossram]

Donnie and Dhali mentioned Eriksson Ek on the show today, but sounded more like a wishlist thing than any sort of rumor etc.

Yeah, there's pretty much no way he's going to be traded.

I'll stick to my Mittelstadt train.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Yeah, there's pretty much no way he's going to be traded.

I'll stick to my Mittelstadt train.

This is my proposal as well.

He gets no press because he's lost in the Buffalo vortex.

But he's only 25, $2.5M pending RFA and can play C or LW.

Personally think he could take off like Reinhart did after leaving Buffalo.

 

[Peter Griffin]

This is my proposal as well.

He gets no press because he's lost in the Buffalo vortex.

But he's only 25, $2.5M pending RFA and can play C or LW.

Personally think he could take off like Reinhart did after leaving Buffalo.

Big even strength producer as well.

The thing with Buffalo is though, what are they doing?

 

[TruGr1t]

Yeah, there's pretty much no way he's going to be traded.

I'll stick to my Mittelstadt train.

The SN650 guys are a big fan of his, but I don't see much chance he's moved either.

 

[bossram]

This is my proposal as well.

He gets no press because he's lost in the Buffalo vortex.

But he's only 25, $2.5M pending RFA and can play C or LW.

Personally think he could take off like Reinhart did after leaving Buffalo.

Yep. I mentioned those things a couple pages back in this thread. Prime-age, pending RFA. A guy who could be a supplementary "core" player and drive an offensive second line.

Big even strength producer as well.

The thing with Buffalo is though, what are they doing?

Bolded is key. He's taken big strides the last couple seasons at even-strength play.

BUF is probably going to have to accept they need to trade some forwards/forward prospects.

I brought up Mittelstadt because Matthew Fairburn (BUF beat writer at the Athletic) speculated recently that Mittselstadt might be an odd man out, given his RFA status, forward glut, and that Cozens will be the long-term 2C.

 

[racerjoe]

UFA deadline deals generally don't get prospects in the Willander and Lekk Quality. As was pointed out with the Horvat trade example. Its super rare, or they will be signed guys with more term.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Yep. I mentioned those things a couple pages back in this thread. Prime-age, pending RFA. A guy who could be a supplementary "core" player and drive an offensive second line.

Bolded is key. He's taken big strides the last couple seasons at even-strength play.

BUF is probably going to have to accept they need to trade some forwards/forward prospects.

I brought up Mittelstadt because Matthew Fairburn (BUF beat writer at the Athletic) speculated recently that Mittselstadt might be an odd man out, given his RFA status, forward glut, and that Cozens will be the long-term 2C.

The question will be what kind of contract Mitts will get. 59 points last season, on pace for 70 this year but more of a playmaker than a goal scorer. I would expect he’s looking for something in the $6M range.

 

[JT Milker]

He's a vastly improved two-way player. Slight OZ start tilt, because the Sabres use their 4th line for DZ starts. Yeah, he's not great at faceoffs. Neither is Jack Hughes or Elias Pettersson. It's not a huge deal.

Yep. He's been one of the few Sabres players performing above expectations this season. He would be a legit 2C and is prime-age.

Again, it’s not a fit for a team that scores a lot and doesn’t have an open spot on pp1 but has a poor pk and no true shutdown line. I have no comments on the quality of the player, just on our current need.

 

[bossram]

The question will be what kind of contract Mitts will get. 59 points last season, on pace for 70 this year but more of a playmaker than a goal scorer. I would expect he’s looking for something in the $6M range.

Probably in the ballpark. I think when Reinhart signed with FLA is a decent comp actually, $6.5 x 3, when he was a C/W and similar production (though a longer track record).

Might be able to knock Mittelstadt a bit down from that number though, given his reputation as a defensive player is worse and he doesn't PK (again though, his two-way play over the last couple seasons has improved a lot).

 

[bossram]

Again, it’s not a fit for a team that scores a lot and doesn’t have an open spot on pp1 but has a poor pk and no true shutdown line. I have no comments on the quality of the player, just on our current need.

The current "need" is another legit top-six player. That player likely will not end up on PP1 regardless of who it is.

The 3rd line with Blueger (or Suter) would be a line you can play against any opposition. And if the Canucks are running the Lotto-line, they will almost certainly play the power-on-power matchups in conjunction with Hughes/Hronek.

Their currently utilization basically has the 2nd line as a sheltered scoring line. If you want scoring there, I think Mittelstadt would help a lot.

Agreed, he won't fix the PK. It seems not much has. They've added a PK specialist (Blueger), changed the coaching, and it still isn't great. Might be more on the blueline personnel.

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

Guenther should be asking for 12 million if Nylander is the market

Dylan?

 

[Vector]

The current "need" is another legit top-six player. That player likely will not end up on PP1 regardless of who it is.

The 3rd line with Blueger (or Suter) would be a line you can play against any opposition. And if the Canucks are running the Lotto-line, they will almost certainly play the power-on-power matchups in conjunction with Hughes/Hronek.

Their currently utilization basically has the 2nd line as a sheltered scoring line. If you want scoring there, I think Mittelstadt would help a lot.

Agreed, he won't fix the PK. It seems not much has. They've added a PK specialist (Blueger), changed the coaching, and it still isn't great. Might be more on the blueline personnel.

Considering the most likely player to be moved out is Kuzmenko and he occupies the 5th spot on PP1, I think there's an excellent change that whoever they get will have a shot at that spot.

 

[JT Milker]

Considering the most likely player to be moved out is Kuzmenko and he occupies the 5th spot on PP1, I think there's an excellent change that whoever they get will have a shot at that spot.

Or play Hronek on pp1 and use Myers on pp2.

 

[Vector]

Or play Hronek on pp1 and use Myers on pp2.

Why make both powerplays worse?

 

[TruGr1t]

The other guys Dhaliwal mentioned the Canucks have had an interest in previously, and may look at again is Frank Vatrano in Anaheim? I guess they reportedly had some interest in the summer.

 

[Horvat1C]

Brzustewicz + 2024 mid round pick for Novak

Tanev (0.5M retained) for 1st 2024 + 2nd 2025 + 3rd 2024

Cole slips in the shower and is LTIRed until Playoffs.

Pettersson - Miller - Boeser
Kuzmenko - Novak - Mikheyev
Joshua - Blueger - Garland
Hoglander - Suter - Lafferty
Di Giuseppe, Aman, Karlsson

Hughes - Hronek
Soucy - Tanev
Zadorov - Myers
Cole, Juulsen, Friedman

Demko
DeSmith

 

[Vector]

The other guys Dhaliwal mentioned the Canucks have had an interest in previously, and may look at again is Frank Vatrano in Anaheim? I guess they reportedly had some interest in the summer.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the Canucks end up linked to most top-6 forwards and right shot defencemen. Everything we've heard is that Allvin is aggressive and constantly in-contact with every team.

 

[TruGr1t]

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the Canucks end up linked to most top-6 forwards and right shot defencemen. Everything we've heard is that Allvin is aggressive and constantly in-contact with every team.

Yeah sounded like it came directly from his agent Peter Fish.