Canucks Free Agent Frenzy 2014!

deckercky · Jun 30, 2014

LickTheEnvelope said:
4. Dump Sestito

Sign:
2. Thornton @ 2 years/ $1.3 mil per

Sestito is currently younger and better than Thornton. Insane salary to pay Iginla there too (1 year at that amount is fine, 2 is a waste).

deckercky · Jun 30, 2014

Clear Cut said:
Tanev will probably get 4 million.

Who are your comparables for that? $3M is about the limit of what similar RFA defencemen earn.

LickTheEnvelope · Jun 30, 2014

deckercky said:
Sestito is currently younger and better than Thornton. Insane salary to pay Iginla there too (1 year at that amount is fine, 2 is a waste).

At the end of the day that doesn't matter too much. Flip a coin Thornton vs Sestito. $500k difference for similar player, it just seems like Linden likes Thornton and Benning from Boston, etc. I just don't want both of them is why I listed just Thornton.

Sharpshooter · Jun 30, 2014

33 said:
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Uptown client Cory Conacher is now an unrestricted free agent that can sign with any #NHL club starting tomorrow at noon. @BuffaloSabres

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arsmaster* · Jun 30, 2014

y2kcanucks said:
Not an exaggeration at all. Lack was terrible after Luongo was dealt. He only had 7 of his final 16 games where his SVP was above .900 in a game.

Oh. The save percentage argument. That's a fun one.

deckercky · Jun 30, 2014

LickTheEnvelope said:
At the end of the day that doesn't matter too much. Flip a coin Thornton vs Sestito. $500k difference for similar player, it just seems like Linden likes Thornton and Benning from Boston, etc. I just don't want both of them is why I listed just Thornton.

Have we actually heard Benning is interested in Thornton, or is this just speculation?

And yes, there is a difference. Sestito can play a regular shift. Thornton used to be able to, but he's lost it. And in any case, it's switching out the 26 year old for the 36 year old (also worth mentioning that Thornton can't be burried). Thornton won't really fight heavyweight anymore either.

Andy Dufresne · Jun 30, 2014

LPH said:
It's possible but the main issue I have is that I doubt Miller wants to go to a team where he'll be splitting starts. He'll want to be the guy.

So then Lack needs to greatly outplay an average to above average goalie to get consistent starts. Lack isn't getting any younger, do we really want him to finally start becoming a starter when he's basically 30?

Once he's here it's not really up to Miller how much he plays. On that note hopefully he's not a pouter and whiner if things don't go exactly like he hoped. I look at the splits roughly like this:

Miller playing real well/Lack decent: Miller 60 gms/Lack 22 gms
Miller and Lack playing about equal: Miller 50 gms/Lack 32 gms
Lack playing real well/ Miller only decent: Miller and Lack split the games for awhile, and if that trend continues Lack takes more and more starts, eventually it's obvious Lack's the #1.

It's easy right now to pencil in Miller as the clear #1 but things can change quickly when the season starts. Not too many people saw the Luongo/Schneider saga going down the way it did, and we all knew Schneids was an up and comer with legit #1 type skills.

LickTheEnvelope · Jun 30, 2014

deckercky said:
Have we actually heard Benning is interested in Thornton, or is this just speculation?

And yes, there is a difference. Sestito can play a regular shift. Thornton used to be able to, but he's lost it. And in any case, it's switching out the 26 year old for the 36 year old (also worth mentioning that Thornton can't be burried). Thornton won't really fight heavyweight anymore either.

Total speculation from Linden's comments and the fact Benning is coming over from Boston. Maybe Benning would prefer Sestito. All i'm saying is we just need 1 of those guys.

MS · Jun 30, 2014

33 said:
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 2m
NSH not qualifying Michael Del Zotto. Throw another log on the UFA fire.

LPH said:
That is very surprising

Del Zotto is terrible.

Another defender who hit the 40-point mirage because of loads of PP time and ends up being over-rated forever as a result.

LickTheEnvelope · Jun 30, 2014

MS said:
Del Zotto is terrible.

Another defender who hit the 40-point mirage because of loads of PP time and ends up being over-rated forever as a result.

Yup. I actually think Tim Gleason who got bought out today is a better d-man.

Addison Rae · Jun 30, 2014

'Kypreos just on the radio in TOR. Said he expects Dave Bolland to sign a 6 or 7 year deal with the Florida Panthers, worth north of 5M a season.''

Glad we dodges that bullet.

MS · Jun 30, 2014

y2kcanucks said:
Not an exaggeration at all. Lack was terrible after Luongo was dealt. He only had 7 of his final 16 games where his SVP was above .900 in a game.

Luongo was stopping pucks at a similar rate during our collapse.

And in any case, if Lack sucks, you get exactly what you want - a high draft pick.

If he doesn't (which I think is the much more likely scenario) we're set at the position for several years with a young-ish bargain player.

Sticking one of the oldest starters in the league (EDIT : 2nd oldest, actually) in there at a massive salary does absolutely nothing for the franchise.

LickTheEnvelope · Jun 30, 2014

Yikes... apparently Bolland is going to get 6 or 7 years for more than $5 mil per from Florida. That's ridiculous. (According to Kypreos)

Bgav · Jun 30, 2014

33 said:
'Kypreos just on the radio in TOR. Said he expects Dave Bolland to sign a 6 or 7 year deal with the Florida Panthers, worth north of 5M a season.''

Glad we dodges that bullet.

a Fool · Jun 30, 2014

33 said:
'Kypreos just on the radio in TOR. Said he expects Dave Bolland to sign a 6 or 7 year deal with the Florida Panthers, worth north of 5M a season.''

Glad we dodges that bullet.

Absolutely mind blowing if it happens. I really have no words.

Andy Dufresne · Jun 30, 2014

y2kcanucks said:
Not an exaggeration at all. Lack was terrible after Luongo was dealt. He only had 7 of his final 16 games where his SVP was above .900 in a game.

I guess it's clear then. NHL teams need to have backup goalies. Bringing in a guy who couldn't play at all, according to Torts anyway, was one of the dumbest things Gillis did in his time here.

What'd Lack play 16, 17 or something straight games, including 3 in 4 nights and 4 in 7 nights....as a ****ing rookie. Brilliant coaching, brilliant management :shakehead

Carl Carlson · Jun 30, 2014

33 said:
'Kypreos just on the radio in TOR. Said he expects Dave Bolland to sign a 6 or 7 year deal with the Florida Panthers, worth north of 5M a season.''

Glad we dodges that bullet.

Please let this be true. I want NO part of that at all.

deckercky · Jun 30, 2014

33 said:
Glad we dodges that bullet.

Haven't dodged it yet...

arsmaster* · Jun 30, 2014

33 said:
'Kypreos just on the radio in TOR. Said he expects Dave Bolland to sign a 6 or 7 year deal with the Florida Panthers, worth north of 5M a season.''

Glad we dodges that bullet.

This makes me so happy. Best news of the week.

member 202355 · Jun 30, 2014

33 said:
'Kypreos just on the radio in TOR. Said he expects Dave Bolland to sign a 6 or 7 year deal with the Florida Panthers, worth north of 5M a season.''

Glad we dodges that bullet.

Tallon.

MS · Jun 30, 2014

arsmaster said:
This makes me so happy. Best news of the week.

I'd rather he went to Toronto at 5x5 just to laugh at Nonis some more.

But yeah, unbelievable contract for a player who has been injured or useless for about 75% of the last 4 seasons.

Snatcher Demko · Jun 30, 2014

Hopefully Benning's "interest" was solely to drive up market value.

Mr. Canucklehead · Jun 30, 2014

33 said:
'Kypreos just on the radio in TOR. Said he expects Dave Bolland to sign a 6 or 7 year deal with the Florida Panthers, worth north of 5M a season.''

Glad we dodges that bullet.

That is a contender for the worst deal I have ever seen signed in the NHL, period. Even David Clarkson's contract might be better than that.

arsmaster* · Jun 30, 2014

Andy Dufresne said:
I guess it's clear then. NHL teams need to have backup goalies. Bringing in a guy who couldn't play at all, according to Torts anyway, was one of the dumbest things Gillis did in his time here.

What'd Lack play 16, 17 or something straight games, including 3 in 4 nights and 4 in 7 nights....as a ****ing rookie. Brilliant coaching, brilliant management

You really think he couldn't play?

I think Torts was just an idiot who had completely gone off his rocker at the time.

He thought he had all the power. I liked some things about torts but I think he did more foolish things than good. He'll never coach in the NHL again IMO.

BobbyJazzLegs · Jun 30, 2014

33 said:
'Kypreos just on the radio in TOR. Said he expects Dave Bolland to sign a 6 or 7 year deal with the Florida Panthers, worth north of 5M a season.''

Glad we dodges that bullet.

Yep. Florida still needs to spend to hit the floor though. Lol.

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