Confirmed with Link: Canucks announce new hockey ops roles: Ian Clark as goalie coach, Cloutier as dir. of goaltending
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TruGr1t
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Good to see the Canucks Alumni Career Fair™ continues to be a great success.
Was hoping it was Benning took a new role. Special advisor to the Lunch cook.
He prob get rid of all the fresh produce and bring in HungryMan dinners then be confused as to why nobody is eating it
He prob get rid of all the fresh produce and bring in HungryMan dinners then be confused as to why nobody is eating it
Lol. We just can't shake Cloutier, who gets a promotion for quitting.
Also, wasn't Ian Clark just like a part time goalie coach when he was here before? Another loser coach.
Also, wasn't Ian Clark just like a part time goalie coach when he was here before? Another loser coach.
He believed that he could coach a goalie to be so robotic in net that emotion and nerves wouldn’t even play a factor because his positioning would be so good.
The result was Dan Cloutier.
This is directly from John Garrett after he left the last time
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Director of Goaltending? Does any other team have someone in this role?
And holy crap we have a lot of ex-Canuck alumni working in hockey operations. I really wish we would stop doing this.
And holy crap we have a lot of ex-Canuck alumni working in hockey operations. I really wish we would stop doing this.
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i thought cloutier resigned. not sure how that works. i assume it means he refuses to travel to utica or on the road.
some other details from that release. manny gets jarvi's work, and scott walker picked up a title.
"Manny Malhotra's role as Assistant Coach will evolve with the announcement of Jarvis being named Special Advisor. His responsibilities will increase and continue include a special focus on the development of young players."
"Scott Walker will move to a full-time capacity as Director Player Development under the guidance of Ryan Johnson, Utica Comets General Manager and Sr. Director, Player Development."
some other details from that release. manny gets jarvi's work, and scott walker picked up a title.
"Manny Malhotra's role as Assistant Coach will evolve with the announcement of Jarvis being named Special Advisor. His responsibilities will increase and continue include a special focus on the development of young players."
"Scott Walker will move to a full-time capacity as Director Player Development under the guidance of Ryan Johnson, Utica Comets General Manager and Sr. Director, Player Development."
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Retirement fund for old Canuck alumni.
Oh cool, we're getting the (incredibly shitty) band back together.
Death by thirty thousand paper cuts at every level of the organization.
Death by thirty thousand paper cuts at every level of the organization.
Think Ian Clark was goalie coach in Columbus. Their goalie had success during this time.
There are some interesting opinions about Ian Clark here. He is one of the key architects in how goaltending is played today. He is a very good coach.
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When he was here the first time, Ian Clark wasn't very good. Lu didn't adapt and modernize his skating (to his credit, Clark was trying) until Rollie got here. Also I think his relationship with Luongo was a little bit too cozy. Lu's style needed to adapt over time much sooner. Then again there were too many cooks in the kitchen in that case but I digress.
What Clark has done in the meantime is help Bobrovsky rein in his freelancing style and raw talent. He certainly deserves some credit for that, but it's worth noting that Bob and McElhinney were his goalies for his entire stint in Columbus. McElhinney in my mind is what he is. Bobrovsky was so slide happy and aggressive that any technical coaching was going to a positive for him. Clark's biggest strength is supposed to be on the technical side. However, some of Bob's early technical changes were instituted by Jussi Parkkila, who is now the goalie coach for Colorado, during the lockout.
Another issue is that Bob melts down every year in the playoffs (last post-season was his best IMO but I thought he was still very inconsistent). And every backup for Bob has had terrible stats.
IMO this lends credence to the idea that the organization is letting him go because they have a bunch of newer European goalies coming up and they are usually very heavily coached in modern technique all the way from minor hockey. Despite modernizing his approach, Clark is very much an old-school goalie coach. It's rumoured that Forsberg and Koprisalo may have clashed with him in terms of style. And Forsberg has since been traded.
As for the Canucks, I am not sure how Clark will fare here.
For Marky, technical side is good for him as it is similar to Bob where he has a lot of raw talent. However, I don't think Luongo's mental game improved until Clark left. And evidently with Bob it is not a thing that Clark brings to the table. Unfortunately it might be Marky's greatest weakness.
For Nilly, this may be a great fit because Nilly just needs to stay in his game to be successful IMO, and that is probably what Clark is best at.
For Demko, he is less technical than he should be IMO and needs (maybe considerable) help with his skating. Could Clark pull a Bob with him? The issue is that Bob was a very powerful skater even back to Philly days, in fact too powerful. I'm not as confident that Clark can help Demko with movement patterns which is what I think he needs.
What Clark has done in the meantime is help Bobrovsky rein in his freelancing style and raw talent. He certainly deserves some credit for that, but it's worth noting that Bob and McElhinney were his goalies for his entire stint in Columbus. McElhinney in my mind is what he is. Bobrovsky was so slide happy and aggressive that any technical coaching was going to a positive for him. Clark's biggest strength is supposed to be on the technical side. However, some of Bob's early technical changes were instituted by Jussi Parkkila, who is now the goalie coach for Colorado, during the lockout.
Another issue is that Bob melts down every year in the playoffs (last post-season was his best IMO but I thought he was still very inconsistent). And every backup for Bob has had terrible stats.
IMO this lends credence to the idea that the organization is letting him go because they have a bunch of newer European goalies coming up and they are usually very heavily coached in modern technique all the way from minor hockey. Despite modernizing his approach, Clark is very much an old-school goalie coach. It's rumoured that Forsberg and Koprisalo may have clashed with him in terms of style. And Forsberg has since been traded.
As for the Canucks, I am not sure how Clark will fare here.
For Marky, technical side is good for him as it is similar to Bob where he has a lot of raw talent. However, I don't think Luongo's mental game improved until Clark left. And evidently with Bob it is not a thing that Clark brings to the table. Unfortunately it might be Marky's greatest weakness.
For Nilly, this may be a great fit because Nilly just needs to stay in his game to be successful IMO, and that is probably what Clark is best at.
For Demko, he is less technical than he should be IMO and needs (maybe considerable) help with his skating. Could Clark pull a Bob with him? The issue is that Bob was a very powerful skater even back to Philly days, in fact too powerful. I'm not as confident that Clark can help Demko with movement patterns which is what I think he needs.
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Melvin
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Worst team in the nhl for the last three years, promotions for everyone!
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A no show/no work job for Cloutier. Nice.
Not enough special assistant roles in management for my liking. It would be nice to see them pad things out a little more
Not enough special assistant roles in management for my liking. It would be nice to see them pad things out a little more
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bwahahaha what is that title Cloutier got? Director of Goaltending? Incredible. Is there another NHL team with both a goalie coach and a director of goaltending?
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We're breaking new ground with these innovative new advisory roles we've developed.
It's progressive thinking.
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