Speculation: Canes to make more moves
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Williams is the RHS forward. The issue now is 2nd pairing defense, if someone doesn't grab on to that spot next Pesce in the coming weeks. Goaltending is something that should be looked at it, but Waddell has been more open about acquiring a defenseman.
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Carolina no longer has the depth on defense nor the dire need for scoring talent to lose a defender without replacing him.
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Edmundson is too slow and makes poor decisions. Gardiner has struggled early, but in fairness, so did Dougie Hamilton until about January last year. New team, new system. Two of Gardiner's best two games have been his last two so I'm hoping he's getting accustomed to his teammates and systems now.
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Here is hoping, Carolina and Colorado are my dark horses in each conference for a Cup.
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The only problem with a trade between Carolina and Montreal is that Petry is RHD?
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I mean if they're interested it doesn't hurt to listen.
GM politics should calm down after a few months, if not then they shouldn't be GMs
IMO the Canes best deadline addition would be a 2nd pair RHD. Brett Pesce played the best hockey of his career last year on the left side next to Justin Faulk. I'd prefer Vatanen though as a rental. Petry will likely cost more than the Canes will shell out for a short-term piece.
Those feeling antsy about Gardiner are more concerned about where his skating is than impatient about how he's adapting to the system. He looked better yesterday, but he was laboring for weeks. You can live with the hiccups defensively, but he needs to be the guy that skates the full 200 to generate offense.
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Tyler Toffoli($2.3) + Alec Martinez($2) .... Kings will retain 50% on all final sales!
Edit: Jack Campbell can be thrown in as well
Toffoli is of interest for sure
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Could see them with varying interest in the following to upgrade their 2nd pairing and/or in net:
-Martinez
-Dillon
-Vatanen
-Georgiev (sp?)
-Lehner
They appear set up front, but if an injury or 2 or a true hockey trade presents itself, I could see them interested in:
-Pageau
-Anathansiou
-Johnsson or Kapanen, if either is made available
-Granlund (NAS)
-Kase
I also wouldn’t be surprised if they make no moves. They have depth up front, and Gardiner has been improving over the past few games next to Pesce. Right now, I think the only glaring weakness they have is in goal.
I be mildly surprised if they moved one of their 1sts prior to the deadline for anything less than a young player with term. I don’t see either 1st moved for a rental, I’d also be surprised if they moved one of their 2nds for a rental. I think all picks will be in play, but only for trades that would help them now and later, i.e.-hockey trades. I’d also think prospects-wise, Bean and Gauthier are on the table.
From a cap perspective, they’d more than likely have to include Reimer in any deal for a goalie and either TVR or Edmundson (both on expiring deals) in any trades for D. I’d also think they’d be willing to listen on either TVR or Edmundson for picks or like roster players. I doubt they deal any forwards off their current roster.
-Martinez
-Dillon
-Vatanen
-Georgiev (sp?)
-Lehner
They appear set up front, but if an injury or 2 or a true hockey trade presents itself, I could see them interested in:
-Pageau
-Anathansiou
-Johnsson or Kapanen, if either is made available
-Granlund (NAS)
-Kase
I also wouldn’t be surprised if they make no moves. They have depth up front, and Gardiner has been improving over the past few games next to Pesce. Right now, I think the only glaring weakness they have is in goal.
I be mildly surprised if they moved one of their 1sts prior to the deadline for anything less than a young player with term. I don’t see either 1st moved for a rental, I’d also be surprised if they moved one of their 2nds for a rental. I think all picks will be in play, but only for trades that would help them now and later, i.e.-hockey trades. I’d also think prospects-wise, Bean and Gauthier are on the table.
From a cap perspective, they’d more than likely have to include Reimer in any deal for a goalie and either TVR or Edmundson (both on expiring deals) in any trades for D. I’d also think they’d be willing to listen on either TVR or Edmundson for picks or like roster players. I doubt they deal any forwards off their current roster.
How will bonuses create cap issues next season when Marleau, Edmondson, TVR, Haula, and Faulks retention come off the books while having 3 rfa to extend which none require massive cap hits. Combined those 3 should total the Marleau dead cap hit.
Svech can hit his bonuses.
If Hamilton and Pesce are the main RHD then Carolina would probably eye a LHD to be in the top 4.
Martinez in LA makes the most sense here. LA can take back an expiring contract or retain to make the deal work.
goaltending that’s more interesting.
Lehner and Crawford are both UFA. Chicago would retain on them rather than take Reimer back to make it work. Hawks had the space to afford 2 big goalie contracts because Strome and DCat are in their elc this season. They start new deals next year so need the space so if they go sign a $5-6 mill goalie I don’t think they want a $3.4 mill back up.
Canucks would either have to fall out of the race or after having opened negotiations with Markstrom his demands are way too much for them for them to move him by the TDL.
Svech can hit his bonuses.
If Hamilton and Pesce are the main RHD then Carolina would probably eye a LHD to be in the top 4.
Martinez in LA makes the most sense here. LA can take back an expiring contract or retain to make the deal work.
goaltending that’s more interesting.
Lehner and Crawford are both UFA. Chicago would retain on them rather than take Reimer back to make it work. Hawks had the space to afford 2 big goalie contracts because Strome and DCat are in their elc this season. They start new deals next year so need the space so if they go sign a $5-6 mill goalie I don’t think they want a $3.4 mill back up.
Canucks would either have to fall out of the race or after having opened negotiations with Markstrom his demands are way too much for them for them to move him by the TDL.
With Williams back if Carolina added Martinez I may have to cheer for them in playoffs.
Martinez for 2nd + edmundson (cap purposes)
or
Martinez for Fleury + 3rd (Carolina deals with Cap issues elsewhere)
Martinez for 2nd + edmundson (cap purposes)
or
Martinez for Fleury + 3rd (Carolina deals with Cap issues elsewhere)
Looks fair.
How much gas does Martinez have left in the tank? Could he hang in an aggressive, up-tempo system?
Carolina doesn't need a guy to carry a middle-pairing. The desire is a someone that can be quietly effective in a true #4-type role. Think a modern day Johnny Oduya.
I think he definitely has enough left to do that this year...next year maybe a gamble
