'Canes Sebastian Aho pace for almost 50 goals this season....

[tarheelhockey]

To my understanding, Aho signed that offer sheet because he wanted the negotiation to be over. For people who are not familiar with Finnish style of negotiations, that's about as Finnish style as possible. There was a story about different negotiation styles around the world in Business Insider few years back. Here's the story if someone is interested: 23 fascinating diagrams reveal how to negotiate with people around the world

Here's a typical USA business negotiation pattern:

Here's Canadian:

Here's Swedish:

and here's Finnish:

So the thought process in Aho's head could have gone "If I sign this, the Canes will most likely match within few days and I can resume to play hockey". *Aho reaches for a pen*

So if I’m reading this correctly, Swedes over-discuss things until they end up switching to opposite sides?

 

[Plural]

So if I’m reading this correctly, Swedes over-discuss things until they end up switching to opposite sides?

That's confusing to me too. That's why as a Finn, my advice is to never trust a Swedish person.

 

[llwyd]

That's confusing to me too. That's why as a Finn, my advice is to never trust a Swedish person.

Well, but that is just plain silly - they are very trustworthy people indeed. They just need to talk first, and talk, and talk, and talk, and talk - and finally reach consensus. But once that consensus is achieved they are as reliable as clockwork.

 

[Psych0dad]

To my understanding, Aho signed that offer sheet because he wanted the negotiation to be over. For people who are not familiar with Finnish style of negotiations, that's about as Finnish style as possible. There was a story about different negotiation styles around the world in Business Insider few years back. Here's the story if someone is interested: 23 fascinating diagrams reveal how to negotiate with people around the world

Here's a typical USA business negotiation pattern:

Here's Canadian:

Here's Swedish:

and here's Finnish:

So the thought process in Aho's head could have gone "If I sign this, the Canes will most likely match within few days and I can resume to play hockey". *Aho reaches for a pen*

That's actually really cool. The Swedish one looks like they throw a line and catch a fish. Italian and Spanish ones are ridiculous, how do they function?Finnish one is like a bullet, to the point with the least effort. Love it.

Canada and USA are quite similar, no surprise there.

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

Well, but that is just plain silly - they are very trustworthy people indeed. They just need to talk first, and talk, and talk, and talk, and talk - and finally reach consensus. But once that consensus is achieved they are as reliable as clockwork.

What are they, the f***ing ents?

 

[CanadienShark]

May now be the #1 goal scorer in the league since 11/1 (and the TVR goal against EDM sure looked like he may have tipped it in, but inconclusive)

You mean Nov 1st or Jan 1st? I think most of the world does D/M/Y, but Americans (and some Canadians) do M/D/Y.

 

[llwyd]

What are they, the f*cking ents?

Well, non-coercive consensus is very important for them. So they talk. And talk.

 

[Plural]

Well, but that is just plain silly - they are very trustworthy people indeed. They just need to talk first, and talk, and talk, and talk, and talk - and finally reach consensus. But once that consensus is achieved they are as reliable as clockwork.

It was a joke.

 

[Nuusku]

iirc it was LD29. Dude still owes a lotta beers

Not really. He said he'll buy a beer for those who quote his message AFTER the season.

 

[RorschachWJK]

Not really. He said he'll buy a beer for those who quote his message AFTER the season.

And let me guess: the poster has disappeared completely with no activity on the account? Mysteriously, another poster with a peculiarly similar writing style popped up in other threads...

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

To my understanding, Aho signed that offer sheet because he wanted the negotiation to be over. For people who are not familiar with Finnish style of negotiations, that's about as Finnish style as possible. There was a story about different negotiation styles around the world in Business Insider few years back. Here's the story if someone is interested: 23 fascinating diagrams reveal how to negotiate with people around the world

Here's a typical USA business negotiation pattern:

Here's Canadian:

Here's Swedish:

and here's Finnish:

So the thought process in Aho's head could have gone "If I sign this, the Canes will most likely match within few days and I can resume to play hockey". *Aho reaches for a pen*

He got the term he wanted also.

 

[Svechhammer]

He will be worth all the hype when the Canes are safely above the playoff-line which is not the case atm.

Well that's a really stupid take. Well done!

Did he sign the offer-sheet from the Habs?

Marner got 2, rejected both, said he had no interest in playing for another team.

Marner rejected offer sheets, only wanted to play for Maple Leafs

So maybe Aho did?

Aho signed an offer sheet he knew the Canes would automatically match. He basically used Montreal to get the contract he really wanted in Carolina. I mean the thing was for less than his counter proposal to Carolina at the beginning of contract negotiations, he knew it would be matched, and the team made it known immediately that they would.

 

[Apocalypse Dude]

Another one tonight for 35. Just an absolute beast who should get more recognition

 

[tarheelhockey]

FWIW, the only Canes to score 40 are Eric Staal (41, 45) and Jeff O’Neill (41). Aho will likely join that group and if he doesn’t cool off too much, he has a decent shot at their single-season record.

 

[RageQuit77]

A piece of statswatchery

23 scoreless games, longest scoring slump 3 games.
37 scoring games, longest scoring streak 11 games.
14 multipoint games
- 2 point nights: 9
- 3 point nights: 4
- 5 point night: 1 (includes Hat trick)

I really like his production consistency. Nobody ever knew anyone who would've heard word "inconsistent" in adjunction to Sebastian Aho.

Only watching his highlights occasionally, and reading mostly Finnish news about him, but my impression is that he is pretty much the player with no problems in his game. The most talked problem in HF was his way to sign his contract, some recoil came from that but apparently everybody have been happy ever since.

A Future captain of Carolina Hurricanes.

 

[Lempo]

Aho signed an offer sheet he knew the Canes would automatically match. He basically used Montreal to get the contract he really wanted in Carolina. I mean the thing was for less than his counter proposal to Carolina at the beginning of contract negotiations, he knew it would be matched, and the team made it known immediately that they would.

To underline, the AAV was right in between what the reported starting bids of Canes and Aho were and where they would have ended up anyway after months of tug-and-pull.

Waddell, speaking about half an hour after learning of the offer to Aho, quipped that he was “actually surprised it wasn’t more” and added that his summer instantly became more stress-free because “I’m not going to spend all summer negotiating a contract now.”

Hurricanes to match Montreal's offer sheet for Aho

 

[KCC]

33 goals (only 6 pp goals, 3 sh) so far this season in 58 games. Aho's goal pace is 47 goals...
Hand up who saw this coming?.

5th in the NHL.

Amazing season so far, amazing player sure, but almost 50 goal pace??? Nuts....
- I predicted in the range of 30-35 goals.

lol "on pace". two of the most overused words in hockey. But yes he's doing well and he's a good player.

 

[Absolut]

The Canes man... so much quality young depth. And a little bit of edge too. The fans should be so pumped.

 

[AvatarAang]

I can't believe the "3rd wheel" on the laine/puljujarvi WJC line is now the best out of the three.

Hopefully the canes get over their obsession with defense and find some other guys that can score.

 

[LakeLivin]

I can't believe the "3rd wheel" on the laine/puljujarvi WJC line is now the best out of the three.

Hopefully the canes get over their obsession with defense and find some other guys that can score.

Obviously everyone develops differently, and I know there are many different factors involved. But I do wonder if part of Aho's greater "progression" might be just due to physical development? Without looking at actual stats, my impression is that Aho's physical development was a lot slower than the other two. I'm still not sure he's grown into his "man body" yet, while the other two seemed to have close to NHL bodies even at the time all three played WJC? Like I said, impressions, so don't crucify me if that's not the case.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Obviously everyone develops differently, and I know there are many different factors involved. But I do wonder if part of Aho's greater "progression" might be just due to physical development? Without looking at actual stats, my impression is that Aho's physical development was a lot slower than the other two. I'm still not sure he's grown into his "man body" yet, while the other two seemed to have close to NHL bodies even at the time all three played WJC? Like I said, impressions, so don't crucify me if that's not the case.

I mean, he looks like an elf. I predict he grows another 4 inches taller and 50 pounds heavier.

 

[LakeLivin]

I mean, he looks like an elf. I predict he grows another 4 inches taller and 50 pounds heavier.

Aho is currently listed by the Canes as 6'0" 176 lbs. If that's the case, how much did he weigh when he first came into the league, maybe a buck sixty-five or even less? Don't know if he'll get any taller lol, but if he puts on another 10 lbs of muscle, that could still make a difference. In comparison, Turbo is listed at 5'11" 191lbs and Dzingel 6'0" 190.

 

[AvatarAang]

Obviously everyone develops differently, and I know there are many different factors involved. But I do wonder if part of Aho's greater "progression" might be just due to physical development? Without looking at actual stats, my impression is that Aho's physical development was a lot slower than the other two. I'm still not sure he's grown into his "man body" yet, while the other two seemed to have close to NHL bodies even at the time all three played WJC? Like I said, impressions, so don't crucify me if that's not the case.

Ah yes, the rare second puberty that occurs after one partakes in the WJC.

 

[ruaware41]

Ah yes, the rare second puberty that occurs after one partakes in the WJC.

unnecessarily sarcastic/rude response to not completely unreasonable speculation

 

[Lempo]

I can't believe the "3rd wheel" on the laine/puljujarvi WJC line is now the best out of the three.

Actually Aho was a step ahead of both at the time of and in the WJC. The WHC team coach talked of him when he said after the WJC that one of the guys would be making the WHC team.

It was the hype for 2016 Draft that gave the press for the other two, Aho had already been drafted in 2015.