News Article: Canadiens happy with dynamic blue line

[Habs]

Drouin was a diamond in the rough.

A real gem , like the Hope diamond.

 

[Notabaguette]

If Romanov is a top 4 D and can bump either Edmonson or Chariot down the left side is finally good. But that is a lot to ask of a guy coming over at that age.

As for the bottom pairing it would be great if Kulak plays like he did in the playoffs or Mete, Fleury, Juulsen or long shot Brook make huge strides. Good chance Romanov is on the bottom pairing at the end of the season with a playoff pickup.

 

[FormerLurker]

You love the point collumn and it shows

BTW since you like the point collumn so much, you might want to put it in context as Petry is 56th for Points Per 60 among dmen who played 40 or more games last season, so considering his defensive inconsistencies on top of that, yeah, he's far from the top 20. He's overused and out of spot. He needs a strong defensive partner, which is not what you typically find in the top 30, let alone the top 20, unless the player is superb offensively, which Petry isn't.

It seems you love the +/- column more than any of us like the points column. And let's not overstate what Petry needs in a defense partner, he just needs someone that doesn't suck.

Oh and I think your stat for points per 60 is wrong. Were you only looking at 5on5? In all situations Petry is 29th in points per 60 among dmen.

 

[Hostile Offer]

Canadiens happy with dynamic blue line that also has depth - Sportsnet.ca

Lmao outside of Petry there is nothing dynamic about that blueline. Maybe if Mete and Romanov can step up but clearly Mete is falling out of favour and Romanov hasn't played a game on NA surface yet. Sorry Luke but I'm not touching your kool aid.

 

[Dominator13]

I don't hate Edmudsaon whatsoever, I really like the nastiness in his game.

But a dynamic D-core would of consisted of the Habs going hard after Torey Krug, not Joel Edmundsson.

The offensive contribution from our left side defensmens has been an absolute joke for about 4 years now. Unless Romanov has an unreal growing curve (please don't bring Mete into this), it's not going to be better in 20-21.

 

[MolleSon]

If Petry is not close to being a top 20 now, let's trade him right away because I'm sure a couple teams out there would pay for him as a top 20.

 

[MasterD]

Oh come on man. Weber + Petry as the top 2 RD takes a hell of a lot of beating in the current league. Unremarkable?

Yes, unremarkable. Not the same as terrible.

Our top 2 Dmen play the same side, they're both over 30, and one is quite injury prone. The rest are big players, but as a whole lack mobility and puck moving ability. It's a D corps built for the 90s as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

If Petry is not close to being a top 20 now, let's trade him right away because I'm sure a couple teams out there would pay for him as a top 20.

Over the last three seasons, among dmen with over 20mpg of TOI, Petry has one of the very worst on ice save% (,904) and despite playing on a strong ES team, his ES per 60 contribution is not anywhere close to top 20. He's top 20 in total points because he gets overused and is good on the PP. Carey Price's save% has plummeted ever since Petry replaced Markov as the team's #2 (that's top 30-60), averaging close to ,925 in the previous 4 years and averaging less than ,910 in the last 3 seasons.

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

Over the last three seasons, among dmen with over 20mpg of TOI, Petry has one of the very worst on ice save% (,904) and despite playing on a strong ES team, his ES per 60 contribution is not anywhere close to top 20. He's top 20 in total points because he gets overused and is good on the PP. Carey Price's save% has plummeted ever since Petry replaced Markov as the team's #2 (that's top 30-60), averaging close to ,925 in the previous 4 years and averaging less than ,910 in the last 3 seasons.

Over the last 3 years, Petry has had the following as D partners:

- Brett Kulak
- Karl Alzner
- Mike Reilly
- David Schlemko
- Victor Mete
- Joe Morrow
- Brandon Davidson
- Marco Scandella
- Jakub Jerabek

I would say the plummet in Price's save % would be mainly in regards to Petry having to play with guys who are either barely NHL players or aren't even in the league anymore.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Over the last 3 years, Petry has had the following as D partners:

- Brett Kulak
- Karl Alzner
- Mike Reilly
- David Schlemko
- Victor Mete
- Joe Morrow
- Brandon Davidson
- Marco Scandella
- Jakub Jerabek

I would say the plummet in Price's save % would be mainly in regards to Petry having to play with guys who are either barely NHL players or aren't even in the league anymore.

And yet Weber had to deal with the same problem and managed better overall, especially defensively.

If Petry was anywhere close to a top 20 D in the league, he'd manage to be good defensively despite those partners, especially since he spent a good deal of that TOI as the 2nd pairing, while spending less time as the 1st.

Petry's on-ice save% is abysmal over the last 3 years. Weber, Kulak, Mete, all have much better overall GA60 and On Ice Save%.

 

[BargainBinSpecial]

Over the last 3 years, Petry has had the following as D partners:

- Brett Kulak
- Karl Alzner
- Mike Reilly
- David Schlemko
- Victor Mete
- Joe Morrow
- Brandon Davidson
- Marco Scandella
- Jakub Jerabek

I would say the plummet in Price's save % would be mainly in regards to Petry having to play with guys who are either barely NHL players or aren't even in the league anymore.

Scandella was actually a very good serviceable D. The Blues actually signed him long term.

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

Scandella was actually a very good serviceable D. The Blues actually signed him long term.

He was solid here but we only had him for like 20 games, he also spent probably half his time here paired with Mete and Ouellet.

Petry hasn't had a consistent partner since Emelin, who despite being overpaid was able to log plenty of minutes and formed a solid pairing with Emelin. Hopefully one of either Romanov/Edmundson are able to gain chemistry with Petry and form a consistent pairing.

 

[sampollock]

Not that this kind of thing hasn't happened before. Just let the guy be, we can do without the exaggerated projections. He has enough to deal with as it is, coming from a larger ice surface, playing limited minutes and getting used to a new system. He needs time to adapt and grow.

Of course, you're going to have your usual delusional sorts in this market who are going to take Richardson's comments the wrong way or too far but that's just par for the course. Something about this market's propensity to eat their young.

agreed, let he kid skate is 1st game, setting him up for stardom.... slow and sure wins the race

 

[Scintillating10]

They done good job drafting in recent years

Canadiens happy with dynamic blue line that also has depth - Sportsnet.ca

 

[26Mats]

They done good job drafting in recent years

2 UFA's (Chiarot, Edmundson)
2 Trades from nothing (Petry, Kulak)
1 Trade from a good draft pick (Weber from Subban)
10 good draft picks (Romanov, Mete, Juulsen, Norlinder, Fleury, Brook, Harris, Struble, Fairbrother, Guhle)

 

[Edward Richtofen]

2 UFA's (Chiarot, Edmundson)
2 Trades from nothing (Petry, Kulak)
1 Trade from a good draft pick (Weber from Subban)
10 good draft picks (Romanov, Mete, Juulsen, Norlinder, Fleury, Brook, Harris, Struble, Fairbrother, Guhle)

Looking much better than a couple seasons ago...

 

[dcyhabs]

Going to look better or worse depending on how the draft picks work out. Could be a log jam or a lack.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Lmao outside of Petry there is nothing dynamic about that blueline. Maybe if Mete and Romanov can step up but clearly Mete is falling out of favour and Romanov hasn't played a game on NA surface yet. Sorry Luke but I'm not touching your kool aid.

The Trident was dynamic in the playoffs. It was a huge factor on why we beat the Pens and gave the Flyers a huge test. Edmundson and Romanov added improved it. I'm guessing that you value puck movers like Gostisbehere who are horrible in their own end? You probably think the Leafs D looks good too. McDonagh on Tampa... Meh. He can't provide offense eh? Only 5 pts in 22 playoff games. Heck, Chiarot had 2 pts in 10 games. Sharks have Karlsson and Burns on their D and what does that do for them eh?

I would hate to see how you build your D. It would be 6 guys like Rielly and it won't work. Did you know that defensemen are actually suppose to be able to play D? I don't think you understand play with the puck vs play without the puck. Neutralizing along the walls and down low, mobility, and playing physical. It's almost like guys like Drouin, Tatar, Domi, Lehkonen can overcome big dudes that can skate easily eh?

We are missing a PP QB. Is that what you mean?

 

[Habs Halifax]

Going to look better or worse depending on how the draft picks work out. Could be a log jam or a lack.

Terms left on Petry, Weber, Chiarot, and Edmundson fall in line nicely with what we have coming behind them. Romanov is 20 and probably does not play AHL at all but others like Guhle, Brook, Juulsen, Fleury, Harris, Norlinder, Struble will take time. It's best those guys are inserted at age 22/23 range vs age 20/21.

 

[Scintillating10]

2 UFA's (Chiarot, Edmundson)
2 Trades from nothing (Petry, Kulak)
1 Trade from a good draft pick (Weber from Subban)
10 good draft picks (Romanov, Mete, Juulsen, Norlinder, Fleury, Brook, Harris, Struble, Fairbrother, Guhle)

Romanov and Norlinder could be something special

 

[26Mats]

Romanov and Norlinder could be something special

Indeed, and hopefully Harris and Ghule will be very solid. And hopefully there's some depth of quality from some of the others. Not all 10 will make it, but hopefully we've got a couple gems and a couple very solid 2nd pair/#5 dmen.

From 84 to 88 we had drafted Svoboda, Desjardins, Schneider, Sean Hill, Brisebois, Odelein, and they all emerged from the pipeline... That's a complete, first rate dcore.

 

[Hostile Offer]

The Trident was dynamic in the playoffs. It was a huge factor on why we beat the Pens and gave the Flyers a huge test. Edmundson and Romanov added improved it. I'm guessing that you value puck movers like Gostisbehere who are horrible in their own end? You probably think the Leafs D looks good too. McDonagh on Tampa... Meh. He can't provide offense eh? Only 5 pts in 22 playoff games. Heck, Chiarot had 2 pts in 10 games. Sharks have Karlsson and Burns on their D and what does that do for them eh?

I would hate to see how you build your D. It would be 6 guys like Rielly and it won't work. Did you know that defensemen are actually suppose to be able to play D? I don't think you understand play with the puck vs play without the puck. Neutralizing along the walls and down low, mobility, and playing physical. It's almost like guys like Drouin, Tatar, Domi, Lehkonen can overcome big dudes that can skate easily eh?

We are missing a PP QB. Is that what you mean?

I'm not sure you quite understand what the word "dynamic" means. Nice rant out of nothing though.

 

[dcyhabs]

Terms left on Petry, Weber, Chiarot, and Edmundson fall in line nicely with what we have coming behind them. Romanov is 20 and probably does not play AHL at all but others like Guhle, Brook, Juulsen, Fleury, Harris, Norlinder, Struble will take time. It's best those guys are inserted at age 22/23 range vs age 20/21.

It works as long as some of the prospects pan out. If none of them is better than a third pairing NHLer the roster is going to be thin. Romanov is probable soon, Guhle is probable eventually, but the others aren't even really likely. Juulsen has injury problems, Fleury regressed, Harris and Norlinder look good but haven't played pro, and Struble has a long way to go still.

 

[WeThreeKings]

This is me every time I skim this headline

 

[26Mats]

It works as long as some of the prospects pan out. If none of them is better than a third pairing NHLer the roster is going to be thin. Romanov is probable soon, Guhle is probable eventually, but the others aren't even really likely. Juulsen has injury problems, Fleury regressed, Harris and Norlinder look good but haven't played pro, and Struble has a long way to go still.

Hard to imagine not one of Norlinder, Brook, Harris, Fleury, Struble, Mete, Juulsen, or Fairbrother panning out. But stranger things have happened.