Canadian team Stanley Cup drought - why?
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It's always arguable who is a big name because they never make it to UFA. I think the Canadian UFA signings lately are no different than Kyle Okposo and all the other horrible signings that did not help the U.S teams.
UFAs are not a way to win anyeways. No one is missing anything by not signing them.
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Taxes might be a very small factor, but it's kind of like saying "Why are 20% of these plants not as large as the others", ignoring the fact that some of them were only planted 2 weeks ago. Teams grow and develop over time and decline. Right now, cups are generally being won by teams with NHL stars in their primes. It just happens to be right now that those starts were drafted by US teams.
Most superstar players have career years around 24/25 or so and taper off around 30. This age range is players would be drafted around 2004 - 2010. In this period, Canadian teams drafted in the top five 3 times. U.S. teams drafted top five 32 times. Only 9.38% of "peak age" star players went to Canadian teams - Taylor Hall, Carey Price & Luke Schenn (heh) and those that did paled in comparison to the talent that went to U.S teams. Compare that with Ovechkin, Malkin, Crosby, Ryan, Toews, Kessel, Kane, Stamkos, Doughty, Pietrangelo, Tavares, Hedman, Duchene, Seguin, Johansen, etc. It's clear that much of the prime talent is currently on U.S. teams. The Average Canadian team pick during this range was also worse overall, at 17.63 where U.S. teams have a pick average of 15. U.S. teams were getting better picks in the draft during the years that matter right now.
Canadian teams have only really started getting high draft picks in the past few years (Edmonton lottery luck withstanding). Toronto (Matthews, Marner), Calgary (Monahan, Bennett), Edmonton (Draisaitl, McDavid, Puljujarvi) and Winnipeg (Laine) Vancouver (Juolevi, Pettersson), Montreal this year.
I'd imagine we'll probably see a shift in that dynamic in 3-4 years when those star players enter their prime. Edmonton sort of fell apart this year, but Winnipeg and Toronto both made the playoffs this year. They're only going to get better as their players grow up.
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Earlier years due to salary cap.
Presently, because they are less motivated to do well. They're gonna make money regardless. It's why the Leafs took so long to do a rebuild. Canucks and Flames as well. Oilers did a rebuild but hired crappy people because again they don't need to best, they will make money. Habs may never do a rebuild. The one exception is the Jets. They HAVE to do it the right away because they are small market and are lucky to even have a team. Ottawa is another exception that just has a crappy owner so you can't really say much else about them.
I think media pressure plays a role as well.
Presently, because they are less motivated to do well. They're gonna make money regardless. It's why the Leafs took so long to do a rebuild. Canucks and Flames as well. Oilers did a rebuild but hired crappy people because again they don't need to best, they will make money. Habs may never do a rebuild. The one exception is the Jets. They HAVE to do it the right away because they are small market and are lucky to even have a team. Ottawa is another exception that just has a crappy owner so you can't really say much else about them.
I think media pressure plays a role as well.
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Remember in July 2013 when David Clarkson was the big name UFA at that time and he signed in Toronto.
Ok that's funny. you think Chicago wins without Hossa? Pittsburgh without Gonchar?
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LeafsNation75
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Even though Pittsburgh won it in 2009, one year earlier with Gonchar they lost to Detroit in the 2008 Stanley Cup Final.
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Which stars are signing south?
Truth is stars don’t typically reach free agency. So the narrative that they are avoiding Canada is bunk.
It's been awhile. Pavel Kubina with the Leafs and Mike Cammelari off the top of my head.
Point is, I'm not even sure Canadian teams are trying to sign UFA's anyways. It's a terrible way to build.
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Because it seems like it's always the Canadian teams that have the worst management. Montreal, Ottawa, Edmonton, Vancouver... and Toronto for a really long time. Stop hiring bad GMs!
I agree. A solid 2nd line forward can be considred a "Big Name" nowadays. The big stars never reach UFA.
The last big, great UFA signing was Chara.
Canadian teams are not even trying to sign these guys. So no one is avoiding Canada. Stamkos was the closest since Chara to be a UFA superstar and the only team he spoke with was a Canadian one.
Poor Canadian teams not signing Andrew Ladd...
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Chicago wins that first cup without Hossa, yes. Not sure of the other 2. They never matched the depth of that 2010-11 team.
Gonchar was not a big name at all by the time he went to Pittsburgh.
Hossa was a cap circumvention contract.
Imagine NBA fans thinking their big stars would rather play in Milwaukee than LA or New York.
We only hear that in hockey. Yankees would not touch a player hesitant for the big coverage.
We only hear that in hockey. Yankees would not touch a player hesitant for the big coverage.
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