Caleb Jones recalled from Bakersfield UPDATE#2 Recalled from Bako 12/9/19

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Please. More young finesse players.
We don't need more Staios and Russells.

So long as these finesse players can also defend against NHL competition.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Keep Jones up with Larsson back

Klefbom - Persson
Nurse - Bear
Jones - Larsson
Russell, Benning

Manning in the far realm.

 

[Coffey]

So long as these finesse players can also defend against NHL competition.

Yea, that's a given.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Tippett really doesn't like Persson, does he?
I don't like calling up Jones as a fill in for a week or two and I certainly wouldn't like it if he's warming up the press box like Lagesson did. I want Jones called up when there's a real opportunity to steal a spot, that opportunity isn't there now.

IMO, they should have called up Lowe until Larsson returns and let him be the designated press box sitter.

At some point if Jones shows to be ready then I'd expect a trade of one of our defensemen for forward help to happen. Right now Holland and Tippett need to see what Jones can do at the NHL level.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

So long as these finesse players can also defend against NHL competition.

I mean, our 'gritty' guys can't really defend either. Give me a skilled player that can attack and move the puck but needs work defensively vs a player that can't attack OR defend.

 

[Bangers]

jeezus guys - I thought some of you were as old as me - and never tried a white Russian?

It's essentially if you take a coke float and melt the ice cream, add some coffee flavour and some bite from the vodka and yummy!

This old fart approves! (of both the callup and the drink )

Old people these days...

Don't party like old people did when I was a kid...

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Keep Jones up with Larsson back

Klefbom - Persson
Nurse - Bear
Jones - Larsson
Russell, Benning

Manning in the far realm.

Tip seems to like 14F and 7D, I don't think he'll keep 8.

I think we'll run:

Klefbom-Larsson
Nurse-Bear
Russell-Benning/Jones

Manning to the far realm and Persson in the AHL for a couple weeks.

 

[Oil Dood]

Keep Jones up with Larsson back

Klefbom - Persson
Nurse - Bear
Jones - Larsson
Russell, Benning

Manning in the far realm.

I don't think Benning has done so bad to get kicked out of the line up, Russell on the other hand....

For me:
Nurse/Bear
Klefbom/Larrson(Klefbom needs someone who can cover defensivly, he needs Lars)
Jones/Benning

Trade Russell off to anyone that can take his salary.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Tip seems to like 14F and 7D, I don't think he'll keep 8.

I think we'll run:

Klefbom-Larsson
Nurse-Bear
Russell-Benning/Jones

Manning to the far realm and Persson in the AHL for a couple weeks.

That's what I think to start, but if Jones does well enough, and I suspect he will, perhaps they find a home for Russell or Benning.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

That's what I think to start, but if Jones does well enough, and I suspect he will, perhaps they find a home for Russell or Benning.

I would have spent most of this past summer trying to find a home for Russell so you're preaching to the choir here.

I looked at his buyout this summer and it's pretty ugly. Only save 1M because of bonuses, thanks Chia. We'd have to trade him at max retention or just live with him as the 7D.

 

[Little Fury]

If Jones does well enough to stay up for the long haul, that creates all kinds of interesting scenarios with trade possibilities in season and beyond. Would a team like the Jets be open to taking a look at Russell or Larsson in exchange for a forward?

 

[ChaoticOrange]

If Jones does well enough to stay up for the long haul, that creates all kinds of interesting scenarios with trade possibilities in season and beyond. Would a team like the Jets be open to taking a look at Russell or Larsson in exchange for a forward?

I don't think we'd have a hard time finding a suitor for Larsson. Even with a poor year last year he's still a top 4 defenceman on most teams in the league. Russell... is a different story.

The challenge is I don't think Tippett is enamoured with Persson and he definitely doesn't like playing lefties on the right. I'm not sold that they'll shop Larsson, even though I think they should.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I would have spent most of this past summer trying to find a home for Russell so you're preaching to the choir here.

I looked at his buyout this summer and it's pretty ugly. Only save 1M because of bonuses, thanks Chia. We'd have to trade him at max retention or just live with him as the 7D.

I'll say this, he probably doesn't make Winnipeg worse, they have the space and time for a player like him if the Oilers were just looking to move him out.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

If Jones does well enough to stay up for the long haul, that creates all kinds of interesting scenarios with trade possibilities in season and beyond. Would a team like the Jets be open to taking a look at Russell or Larsson in exchange for a forward?

I think the Jets could just take Russell.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

I mean, our 'gritty' guys can't really defend either. Give me a skilled player that can attack and move the puck but needs work defensively vs a player that can't attack OR defend.

Who said anything about ‘gritty’?

You develop defensively in the AHL. Jones by all accounts has being doing great there and deserves a good look. If he is not a liability in his end here then perhaps Persson can go down and work on his defensive game in the AHL for a bit when Larsson comes back and be a better player overall with more skill.

But you still need to defend and Russell/Benning have been fine as a bottom pair much to the consternation of many on this board.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Yea, that's a given.

Not according to some here.

 

[BarDownBobo]

I think the Jets could just take Russell.

Russell for Perrault is a deal that would make sense for both teams imo, same term and almost identical cap hit.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Russell for Perrault is a deal that would make sense for both teams imo, same term and almost identical cap hit.

Not bad, but I would like the cap space more.

 

[gordonhught]

Not bad, but I would like the cap space more.

Russell for a 2nd!

 

[Cypress]

Wonder if Manning injured his hand in the fight, or if it was already injured. Noticed he switched to a lefty stance during the fight; pretty sure he's right-dominant.

 

[Aerchon]

Is it true they will start Jones on the same pairing as Klefbom tonight?

If so. Huge gamble and foolish imo.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Is it true they will start Jones on the same pairing as Klefbom tonight?

If so. Huge gamble and foolish imo.

Why Foolish?

 

[oilynutz]

Is it true they will start Jones on the same pairing as Klefbom tonight?

If so. Huge gamble and foolish imo.

It is a gamble. I don't know if I would call it a huge one or foolish.

Both the Benning-Russell and Bear-Nurse pairings have chemistry together. Why would you break them up?

 

[Little Fury]

Is it true they will start Jones on the same pairing as Klefbom tonight?

If so. Huge gamble and foolish imo.

Where else do you slot him in? Bottom pair so we have to endure Russell on his offside in the top 4? I'll take my chances with Jones, thanks.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Where else do you slot him in? Bottom pair so we have to endure Russell on his offside in the top 4? I'll take my chances with Jones, thanks.

This is about what I was thinking (though I'm surprised he got directly inserted into the lineup), he's similar to Persson, can move the puck and skate, so more useful along side Klefbom.

I think people forget that he and Larsson were being asked to do way to much last year in his short stint and there's just so much more help now.