C Shane Wright (2022, 4th, SEA) Part 4

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

So what you are saying is he is 20 years old.

Why is that so hard to admit???

I never denied he was 20 lol. But this isn't his 20 year old season.

You really don't understand how this works, huh?

 

[93LEAFS]

Actually, I have been watching hockey for 30 years and I have never once heard a hockey commentator use that term in an NHL game.

I guess they aren't dialed into hockey.


Why is it so complicated to just admit his age?

Its like He is 20 he is a bust!

Wait no no he is only 19 well, in his year in which the season started that he was 19 but now he is 20 but since it is his 19th year that the NHL started he isn't a bust!

Ya, I guess I forgot, I hear commentators talk about it that way all the time.

It's used because it what determines eligibility for major tournaments. Shane Wright was eligible for this years world juniors, hence, it's his 19 year old season.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

wHY WON'T ANY OF YOU JUST ADMIT THAT HE'S TWENTY?

 

[Slats432]

Why does anyone care whether he is 19, 19.5, 20? Doesn't add any value to the conversation.

 

[ZDH]

Just wait until he's 21.

 

[MrCreamm]

Threads bumping, probably because the somewhat humorous, "he scores in bunches" which is an all time bit of analysis. I think he could make the Kraken next year as a 3rd C but I wouldn't really be opposed to see him hypothetically light it up in the AHL next season then get called up.

 

[josra33]

Why does anyone care whether he is 19, 19.5, 20? Doesn't add any value to the conversation.

Because we’re talking about a player who technically shouldn’t be in the AHL due to his age and where he was drafted from, his stats as a 19 year old are actually quite relevant.

 

[Slats432]

Because we’re talking about a player who technically shouldn’t be in the AHL due to his age and where he was drafted from, his stats as a 19 year old are actually quite relevant.

Arguing the minutia, when a player has 24 points in 33 games seems a little ridiculous to me. In the AHL on an exemption but still performing well. A lot of wasted breath here.

 

[josra33]

Arguing the minutia, when a player has 24 points in 33 games seems a little ridiculous to me. In the AHL on an exemption but still performing well. A lot of wasted breath here.

Ok, you chose to enter this thread.

 

[Slats432]

Ok, you chose to enter this thread.

Yes, maybe to discuss the player and his performance, not which month he was conceived.

 

[josra33]

Yes, maybe to discuss the player and his performance, not which month he was conceived.

Fair

 

[Slats432]

So based on numbers he looks pretty good. Anyone seen any play or a deeper dive than just points?

 

[luapejrug]

So based on numbers he looks pretty good. Anyone seen any play or a deeper dive than just points?

I would say he's playing better than his numbers. Generates good scoring opportunities regularly and the coaching staff is making him work for PP1 instead of just giving it to him.

The thing is that he plays how Shane Wright plays. He is not dangling around players or doing anything crazy. He supports his teammates well, links plays together and finds open ice to put himself in scoring opportunities. People watching his game have seen consistent progression as the season has gone on, but if you are expecting a generational player you are not going to get it + he doesn't need to be generational to be a fundamental long-term piece for the Kraken.

 

[majormajor]

I would say he's playing better than his numbers. Generates good scoring opportunities regularly and the coaching staff is making him work for PP1 instead of just giving it to him.

The thing is that he plays how Shane Wright plays. He is not dangling around players or doing anything crazy. He supports his teammates well, links plays together and finds open ice to put himself in scoring opportunities. People watching his game have seen consistent progression as the season has gone on, but if you are expecting a generational player you are not going to get it + he doesn't need to be generational to be a fundamental long-term piece for the Kraken.

The thing that Wright has needed to add to his game is to command the puck and make plays with it on his stick. You actually want him to threaten to dangle more and protect the puck and buy time and not just get rid of it. Have you seen any of that?

I'm sure you recall but Francis' said something to that effect, that he wanted Wright to command the puck. He needs to have it on his stick more than a few seconds per night.

 

[93LEAFS]

Arguing the minutia, when a player has 24 points in 33 games seems a little ridiculous to me. In the AHL on an exemption but still performing well. A lot of wasted breath here.

We've seen multiple players play in the AHL at his age. The exemption only really applies to CHL talent. William Nylander and Rantanen for example destroyed the AHL at 19.

 

[luapejrug]

The thing that Wright has needed to add to his game is to command the puck and make plays with it on his stick. You actually want him to threaten to dangle more and protect the puck and buy time and not just get rid of it. Have you seen any of that?

I'm sure you recall but Francis' said something to that effect, that he wanted Wright to command the puck. He needs to have it on his stick more than a few seconds per night.

He has been more assertive with the puck and his decision-making has improved compared to last year. I agree that he can continue progressing by being coached to play more with the puck on his stick but imo I don't think he will be the type of player that will dangle through players and be the primary puck carrier on his line.

And I would be fine with that. I like the way he can act as a connector on his line and I think he will play up (or down) to the level of his wingers. I would also probably like to see Shane play another season in the AHL because I think it will help him open up his game more but they might have him fill in for Wennberg once his contract runs out at the end of the season.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

wHY WON'T ANY OF YOU JUST ADMIT THAT HE'S TWENTY?

Don't you follow social media? 30 is the new 20, so Wright has a while till he gets there.

 

[Evgeny Oliker]

He has been more assertive with the puck and his decision-making has improved compared to last year. I agree that he can continue progressing by being coached to play more with the puck on his stick but imo I don't think he will be the type of player that will dangle through players and be the primary puck carrier on his line.

And I would be fine with that. I like the way he can act as a connector on his line and I think he will play up (or down) to the level of his wingers. I would also probably like to see Shane play another season in the AHL because I think it will help him open up his game more but they might have him fill in for Wennberg once his contract runs out at the end of the season.

When you describe how he plays, to me he sounds like a Verhaeghe type of player. Would you say that’s accurate in terms of his style and possible upside?

So not a play driver but someone who knows how to finish off plays, and can make a decent pass.

 

[luapejrug]

When you describe how he plays, to me he sounds like a Verhaeghe type of player. Would you say that’s accurate in terms of his style and possible upside?

So not a play driver but someone who knows how to finish off plays, and can make a decent pass.

Tbh I don't watch Florida a lot so I can't answer, but I don't think he will be a play driver.

I do think, however, that he has the potential to be a PPG and score 40 if playing with wingers that allow him to play to his strength. If he plays with wingers that can feed him the puck when he's open he will play well.

 

[jiboy]

When you describe how he plays, to me he sounds like a Verhaeghe type of player. Would you say that’s accurate in terms of his style and possible upside?

So not a play driver but someone who knows how to finish off plays, and can make a decent pass.

I like the comp, he has a quick sneaky release also

 

[ScottyMascotty]

When you describe how he plays, to me he sounds like a Verhaeghe type of player. Would you say that’s accurate in terms of his style and possible upside?

So not a play driver but someone who knows how to finish off plays, and can make a decent pass.

I like the comp, he has a quick sneaky release also

Verhaeghe is good at driving offense. So this is not very accurate comparison.


We've had prime Mike Hoffman for two years though. He was clearly not a play driver, just a shooter and PP specialist.

 

[majormajor]

Verhaeghe is good at driving offense. So this is not very accurate comparison.


We've had prime Mike Hoffman for two years though. He was clearly not a play driver, just a shooter and PP specialist.

Hoffman doesn't quite fit because he was such trash without the puck.

Wright is solid without the puck and a great shooter and good passer but seems allergic to having it on his stick. He doesn't create many advantages.

For me it's hard to find a comp because most players who have the puck on their stick this rarely are just bad players, and I don't think Wright is in that category either.

 

[MrCreamm]

3 assists Friday, and a goal from the slot Saturday.

 

[wetcoast]

He has been more assertive with the puck and his decision-making has improved compared to last year. I agree that he can continue progressing by being coached to play more with the puck on his stick but imo I don't think he will be the type of player that will dangle through players and be the primary puck carrier on his line.

And I would be fine with that. I like the way he can act as a connector on his line and I think he will play up (or down) to the level of his wingers. I would also probably like to see Shane play another season in the AHL because I think it will help him open up his game more but they might have him fill in for Wennberg once his contract runs out at the end of the season.

I think they could wait a year and find a stopgap for Wennberg and then let Wright and Winterton develop in the AHL.

Also looking at the forward in the Seattle system I think a couple of centers might end up on the wing as they have some interesting center prospects graduating soon to the AHL.

 

[luapejrug]

I think they could wait a year and find a stopgap for Wennberg and then let Wright and Winterton develop in the AHL.

Also looking at the forward in the Seattle system I think a couple of centers might end up on the wing as they have some interesting center prospects graduating soon to the AHL.

I am sure that Goyette and Rehkopf will become wingers at the pro level.

Long-term, I think a center core of Beniers, Wright, and Mølgaard has real upside. Sprinkle in a few of Rehkopf, Firkus, Nyman, Goyette, Sale, and that top 9 is looking to have good potential too.

For defense, Evans, Dragicevic, Price, and Nelson are a good prospects but I would like to see them land a top prospect on the backend to really give that group a boost (maybe in the upcoming draft?).

Regardless, the Kraken brass have done a good job of drafting so far so they are in a position where Wright might not need to pan out to his full potential (but doing so would be a +).