Burns and Karlsson VS Tavares and Matthews
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I am not exposed
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For just next year?
I mean, if it was overall, sure. But how much is age going to impact Karlsson and Burns next year. They are both arguably in their peak!
Connor McConnor
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Voted Matthews and JT because I think Burns is heavily overrated.
As of now for me:
EK
Tavares
Matthews
Burns
As of now for me:
EK
Tavares
Matthews
Burns
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Don’t say eye test when you mean points
Since 2015-2016, regular season and playoffs:
Burns and Karlsson have 485 points in 535 games; a combined points per game of 0.906.
Matthews and Tavares have 370 points in 405 games; a combined points per game of 0.914
Matthews and Tavares have a 0.008 higher points per game than Burns and Karlsson. The difference in offense between the two groups is microscopic and when you consider that Burns/Karlsson are doing this as defensemen, it isn’t even close.
Burns and Karlsson have 485 points in 535 games; a combined points per game of 0.906.
Matthews and Tavares have 370 points in 405 games; a combined points per game of 0.914
Matthews and Tavares have a 0.008 higher points per game than Burns and Karlsson. The difference in offense between the two groups is microscopic and when you consider that Burns/Karlsson are doing this as defensemen, it isn’t even close.
CanadienShark
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Karlsson is the best there. Then it's a toss up. So I'll take the Sharks duo.
Sol
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Uh... No m8. Defenseman get much more ice time. Karlsson and Burns will clap their cheeks in this poll.
Matthews is going to be a top 5 in the NHL. Karlsson is a top 5 D in the NHL.
Tavares is a top 10 C in the NHL and Burns is a top 10 D in the NHL.
It's quite close. I went with Matthews-Tavares because of there defence. Karlsson and Burns are litteraly like 4th forwards who rack points on the PP.
If it was Hedman-Doughty then I would go with those two.
Tavares is a top 10 C in the NHL and Burns is a top 10 D in the NHL.
It's quite close. I went with Matthews-Tavares because of there defence. Karlsson and Burns are litteraly like 4th forwards who rack points on the PP.
If it was Hedman-Doughty then I would go with those two.
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Agent Zub
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Oh my some posts are just so hopeless that trying to debate them would be useless
This is one of those posts
Sol
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Tavares top 10..Matthews top 5?what are you going to assassinate the better players to make this opinion true?
Golden_Jet
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Offensively priabably a draw, defensively the defenseman are better at defense. Marthews doesnt PK.
Heck year before last Karksson was second in the league in blocked shots.
CantLoseWithMatthews
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blocking shots isn't good defense. Ceci and Phaneuf blocked more than Karlsson. it just means you're letting the other team take a lot of shots. Also PKing doesn't really mean anything in terms of defensive ability
LMFAO. He won (robbed Doughty really) of a trophy that is only available to defensemen.
Yet Tavares was a finalist, top 3, for a trophy open to every player in the league. Twice. Which Karlsson has never done.
Sky04
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So he's failed to win twice, thanks for clarifying - how about breaking 70 points as a forward, something Matthews has never done and both defenseman have.
that's embarrassing.
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CupsOverCash
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Quite the contrary. Offensively, the forwards are much better at offense than the dmen. Just because they're on the ice 25 minutes a game, and collect a tonne of assists (lots of secondary assists), doesn't mean they generate as much offense.
And quite frankly, both forwards are better in their own zone.
Golden_Jet
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Again, Hart trophy. Best player in the league regardless of position.So he's failed to win twice, thanks for clarifying - how about breaking 70 points as a forward, something Matthews has never done and both defenseman have.
Much better than the Norris.
Golden_Jet
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Golden_Jet
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Look at stats and read post before replying...I said his last healthy year 16/17
So fail again.NHL.com - Stats
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When EK didn’t block shots and didn’t PK, it was a big deal.
Now that he does, it’s counterproductive.
Ok.
Now that he does, it’s counterproductive.
Ok.
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