OT: Buccaneers, Rays & Other Tampa Bay Sports Teams Thread

[LTIR Trickery]

2 AL pennants, 4 other playoff appearances and he still doesn't know better? Everyone here knows what they DON'T want but cannot propose a single working alternative to it. If a new ballpark is over half a billion dollars how's a guy worth only $800 million supposed to build it on his own while keeping his other investments afloat? The math doesn't work like that. There are Hillsborough County residents who will spend more on the Lightning in 2-3 years than they ever will in 30-40 years as a taxpayer in part of a stadium bill but yet that's somehow too rich for our blood around here.

If there was ever a flex worse than "split the season in Montreal" we certainly found it.

Keep carrying that water for the rich, they love f***ing over your cities so they can get a new toy to funnel in sponsorship dollars.

 

[LTIR Trickery]

If you wish to alleviate local tax burden you can always put in extra at hotels because tourism here will never go away. Out of state visitors will foot that bill by the millions in 30-40 years. You can partner with local business (think of something like naming rights with Hard Rock and a partnership to pay for the stadium) and any business enterprises Vinik has coming up here in Tampa would be particularly advantageous in that the potential Ybor location is nearby.

We've had the necessary resources to get this done the entire time. And also, you don't need to put a roof on it. We play at 7pm except on Sundays and it doesn't rain that much. Boom, just saved you $245 million.

So we're supposed to pay for 30-40 years for a stadium that they'll ask for more money to remodel in like 15?

 

[These Are The Days]

Keep carrying that water for the rich, they love f***ing over your cities so they can get a new toy to funnel in sponsorship dollars.

Bubba I am the crown wearing princess of "eat the rich" to the point of people accuse me of being an economic socialist. But this ain't a politics forum. If you take me up on a PM you'll figure out pretty quick I'm telling the truth here.

But either way this isn't about carrying water for the rich. Stu already said he'd commit over $100 million out of pocket. As a Hillsborough County resident I'm good with that because that's not chump change you're giving me. It doesn't take a business major to realize a guy worth only $800 million really shouldn't be spending more than that even if he did it over 30-40 years. What I'm not good with is millions of people expecting ONE person to shell out over half a billion dollars for a project for other people for free but they're crying, bitching and moaning that their 1 in like 50 millionth per year contribution over 30-40 years is highway robbery. I dropped over 2 grand to see us win the Cup. I seriously doubt my share to a new Rays ballpark will be even remotely that much over 30-4o years. That is NOT worth fighting over or potentially losing a team.


Everyone is letting the whole "split season in Montreal" thing get to their heads. It's nothing more than the same "We're gonna move the team to Baltimore!" crap we saw in the NFL for like 20 some odd years.

 

[These Are The Days]

So we're supposed to pay for 30-40 years for a stadium that they'll ask for more money to remodel in like 15?

I sincerely doubt that. Build this thing right the first time and that measure won't be necessary. We aren't dealing with a hastily constructed tuna can back from in the 80's because we we're high as a kite thinking we're gonna get the Giants or White Sox like we did with The Trop.

 

[LTIR Trickery]

Bubba I am the crown wearing princess of "eat the rich" to the point of people accuse me of being an economic socialist. But this ain't a politics forum. If you take me up on a PM you'll figure out pretty quick I'm telling the truth here.

But either way this isn't about carrying water for the rich. Stu already said he'd commit over $100 million out of pocket. As a Hillsborough County resident I'm good with that because that's not chump change you're giving me. It doesn't take a business major to realize a guy worth only $800 million really shouldn't be spending more than that even if he did it over 30-40 years. What I'm not good with is millions of people expecting ONE person to shell out over half a billion dollars for a project for other people for free but they're crying, bitching and moaning that their 1 in like 50 millionth per year contribution over 30-40 years is highway robbery. I dropped over 2 grand to see us win the Cup. I seriously doubt my share to a new Rays ballpark will be even remotely that much over 30-4o years. That is NOT worth fighting over or potentially losing a team.


Everyone is letting the whole "split season in Montreal" thing get to their heads. It's nothing more than the same "We're gonna move the team to Baltimore!" crap we saw in the NFL for like 20 some odd years.

I'm not asking Stu to fork it over, but i'm certainly asking him to finance it through someone else. Yeah, I mean, you're also correct here and I don't want to take away from that. A lot of my sentiment is also coming from that clown f***ing up marketing, shitting on the city constantly. I also get the threats of moving and all but I still honestly, truly believe there is zero chance they would ever allow to or agree on a split season. Players realizing they make less in QC while Stu potentially rakes in more in ticket sales?

 

[Stormbreaker]

Joe Tryon looking like a steal

 

[These Are The Days]

I'm not asking Stu to fork it over, but i'm certainly asking him to finance it through someone else. Yeah, I mean, you're also correct here and I don't want to take away from that. A lot of my sentiment is also coming from that clown f***ing up marketing, shitting on the city constantly. I also get the threats of moving and all but I still honestly, truly believe there is zero chance they would ever allow to or agree on a split season. Players realizing they make less in QC while Stu potentially rakes in more in ticket sales?

Stu and citizens alike have plenty of options on how to get this done. First order of business is that "we need a roof" is bullshit. You've got 4 professional baseball teams in the Clearwater Threshers, Dunedin Blue Jays, Lakeland Flying Tigers and Tampa Tarpons who play in open air -and those are just teams off the top of my head. If they can do it so can we. Doubleheaders are 7 innings now anyway. The plan will work. Suddenly you've saved a quarter of a billion dollars. "Someone else" can be done via businesses, hotels, 5 cents along the Suncoast expressway, it goes on and on. County revenue will be in the hundreds of millions over the lifetime of the deal if the Tampa and Hillsborough County chambers of commerce agree to a business strategy. But no matter what, common folk are gonna have to eat the bill somewhere as with any public works project. It doesn't matter if its a ballpark or mercifully patching up the holes on Nebraska Ave, some bastard who lives 12 miles away is gonna bitch and moan saying "Why does my tax dollar gotta go to that? I don't care about that!" Otherwise, the only other bullshit really left over is the split season thing and people realizing that is exactly what it is.



PS- They seriously need to get rid of this "paperless only" ticket system. I'm like 99% sure that most folks who actually go to Rays games can't figure it out and it's causing our attendances to plummet worse than they already are

 

[These Are The Days]

Lmao! Holy shit Boston

 

[These Are The Days]

Lmao! Holy shit Boston

Reserve this for the Rays tonight. They've pissed away how many runs by charging home plate on terrible infield hits that never had a chance. Someone wake up the 3B coach

 

[Stormbreaker]

Ya'll ready??!?! LFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[J T Money]

 

[Discipline]

HAHAHA COWBOYS are STILL trash

 

[These Are The Days]

Thank God for Tom Brady. Clean up some mistakes and we win in a blowout. But for God's sake Todd Bowles go back to what worked last season. I swear it was like watching a coach say "Let's have Hedman shoot one timers on the power play and Kucherov moves to unit 2!" because he thinks it's gonna make him smart

 

[JTBF81]

Thank God for Tom Brady. Clean up some mistakes and we win in a blowout. But for God's sake Todd Bowles go back to what worked last season. I swear it was like watching a coach say "Let's have Hedman shoot one timers on the power play and Kucherov moves to unit 2!" because he thinks it's gonna make him smart

Agreed, if not for the two big mistakes from Godwin, the team scores 42 at minimum. Have to play much better defensively though, and the secondary still seems very weak.

 

[Hoek]

Can't even enjoy the AL East penant without this guy sabotaging the fanbase some more.

 

[Stormbreaker]

Bucs defense is a mess.

 

[JTBF81]

Bucs defense is a mess.

Yeah, that's what happens unfortunately when a very mediocre secondary received no upgrades because they had a few opportunistic games in the playoffs. Of course it's also because the Bucs refused to make a little room perhaps by maybe moving one offensive player to go after a decent CB via trade or ufa either. That, coupled with no help from the draft and injuries to the already awful Murphy-Bunting and the mediocre Dean, and the league's 21st ranked pass defense from last year is well on its way to being back to a bottom 5 unit. The defensive line was also non-existent yesterday, as Stafford had all day on many throws.

 

[berlin]

Bucs secondary is trash and with zero depth.

 

[Hoek]

D-line needs to step it up.

 

[CupsOverCash]

Remember last year they looked similar until they clicked after the bye week and even after that d didn't really get dialed in until a little later. Don't know how it shakes out but it's still kinda early.

 

[Point21]

 

[DMXATF23]

Lack of pass rush is exposing the banged up secondary…and I dunno if it gets better

 

[Stormbreaker]

Injuries are mounting up something that didn't happen last year.

 

[JTBF81]

Not sure if I've seen a team as talented as the Rays have such a terrible manager. Cash really is awful. The team wins in spite of him, not because of his leadership. Wacha pitching the beat game he's thrown in a long time, no hitter after 5 and only 61 pitches, out you go bc the spreadsheet says so. The Rays relievers were garbage, and they have.no closer since they stupidly traded Castillo for scraps. Chargois needs to be off the playoff roster, as he clearly folds under any real pressure. 2 runs walked in to blow the game, jfc.

 

[berlin]

Can someone explain to me why the Red Sox hash tag is #dirtywater?