Proposal: Bruin's Trade Proposals IV

[Chief Nine]

Ban the use of a non-offensive nick name? Is he your friend or something?

In spite of what you think of him as a player David Backes doesn't deserve to have a stupid nickname like that hung on him by you or anyone else. It's an insult to guy who has given a lot to this team whether or not his play appeases you or not.

It's pretty much trolling at this point as you've been called out on this a bunch of times by a lot of posters

 

[Ratty]

B. ?????????

Should we also ban "Snuffleupagus" ?

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Bruins and Kings linked in trade talks?!

Tiffoli? Muzzin? both?

I like Muzzin, but he’s LA’s 2nd pair LD. If Chara is out for an extended period, Martinez (1st pair) might be the better target. Both Martinez and Muzzin play on the PK and PP.

As another poster just said, even with Chara out, do the B’s need a LD?

Krug, Moore, Grizz, UV all lefties.

 

[easton117]

I like Muzzin, but he’s LA’s 2nd pair LD. If Chara is out for an extended period, Martinez (1st pair) might be the better target. Both Martinez and Muzzin play on the PK and PP.

As another poster just said, even with Chara out, do the B’s need a LD?

Krug, Moore, Grizz, UV all lefties.

Not sure they do. But not sure Neely wants to roll with potentially Grizz and Krug in the lineup at the same time in the playoffs again either.

Can either of Martinez or Muzzin play the other side?

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Not sure they do. But not sure Neely wants to roll with potentially Grizz and Krug in the lineup at the same time in the playoffs again either.

Can either of Martinez or Muzzin play the other side?

Hopefully, Neely is not the one making the call.

 

[TCB]

I think the last thing the Bruins need is to add a Ld or any defenseman.

Krug, Lauzon,Grizz Moore, Zboril and Vaak on the left, Miller when he returns can also play the left side, and Grizz can play the right nearly as good as the left. You have Kampfer,Carlo,Miller and McAvoy when their healthy and they just called up Clifton.

If big Z is out for a lengthy amount of time. Play the kids Lauzon and Vaak, Zboril. No Need to trade for a d-man when you already have them

The bruins strength is their defensive depth, Right behind behind the Bergy-Line. So lets use it.

 

[easton117]

Hopefully, Neely is not the one making the call.

I would concur with this.

 

[Mick Riddleton]

I don’t think Dom saw this, or I’m sure he would have answered.

After he was drafted, within weeks Dom told some of us in a text that he would be surprised if Hamilton ever saw his second contract in Boston. Eventually, it made its way to the boards I believe (after he was gone).

Dom knows his ****.

I do remember Dom mentioning he will not sign the 2nd contract. I live where Dougie played his Junior hockey and nobody really liked him here. My kid worked at "The Jack" during that time period and one still works at the arena. There are stories, not going into them. Whenever I mention his name somebody always answers, uggh that guy.

About Panarin, he is a pipe dream, we are not getting 1st line players when we already have Bergy's line producing. No way a top guy comes here to play 2nd fiddle. Aim for Second line guys with size and skill.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

after rangers picked up strome today... I think it opens a trade opportunity for us

I think kevin Shattenkirk at 1/2 price would be the qualified pp qb we can make do with the next 3 seasons after we trade krug. hes not as good, but 1/2 price would be just 3.325 million and that would fit on our team. I also think he could be a great partner for grezlyck. super mobile partnership playing protected 3rd pair mins.

I also want strome of course... the proposal makes no sense unless hes in it. hes a 25 year old right shot center/winger who has been very poorly developed. hes signed the next 2 years at 3.1 million

my trade proposal is a 2-2

kevin Shattenkirk {1/2 retained}
ryan strome
for
torey krug
noel accari

honestly Shattenkirk hasn't worked out for ny… but hes not a first pair dman. when he was a second pair guy in st louis he was fine. he will be fine for us too playing behind both McAvoy and carlo

in the short term strome would be an upgrade as a 3rd line center until one of our kids wrestles the job away so we have room for him. looking forward to next season we should dump backes contract and strome can fill in that spot in the lineup until senshyn is ready to take over. strome wont likely ever become a top 5 pick player like he was drafted for... but theres a decent chance that he will respond to being on a good team and give better results.

 

[McGarnagle]

Question to those who know how the cap works:

Are we accumulating cap space with all these guys being out? Most of them are on rookie deals so not much difference made, but if Chara and Miller and their $7.5 million go on LTIR, are we earning that much prorated space every day in the end that we can bank for the trade deadline and perhaps bring in a guy with a sizable prorated cap hit for the last 6 weeks of the year?

I guess what I'm confused about is whether there's an annual limit or a daily one. You can't just have Chara out for 3/4 of a season and then get to go over the cap for the rest of the year by adding a $3.75 million contract at the deadline, right? That would be too exploitable.

 

[UncleRico]

In spite of what you think of him as a player David Backes doesn't deserve to have a stupid nickname like that hung on him by you or anyone else. It's an insult to guy who has given a lot to this team whether or not his play appeases you or not.

It's pretty much trolling at this point as you've been called out on this a bunch of times by a lot of posters

I think we found David backes’ hockey futures burner account.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

after rangers picked up strome today... I think it opens a trade opportunity for us

I think kevin Shattenkirk at 1/2 price would be the qualified pp qb we can make do with the next 3 seasons after we trade krug. hes not as good, but 1/2 price would be just 3.325 million and that would fit on our team. I also think he could be a great partner for grezlyck. super mobile partnership playing protected 3rd pair mins.

I also want strome of course... the proposal makes no sense unless hes in it. hes a 25 year old right shot center/winger who has been very poorly developed. hes signed the next 2 years at 3.1 million

my trade proposal is a 2-2

kevin Shattenkirk {1/2 retained}
ryan strome
for
torey krug
noel accari

honestly Shattenkirk hasn't worked out for ny… but hes not a first pair dman. when he was a second pair guy in st louis he was fine. he will be fine for us too playing behind both McAvoy and carlo

in the short term strome would be an upgrade as a 3rd line center until one of our kids wrestles the job away so we have room for him. looking forward to next season we should dump backes contract and strome can fill in that spot in the lineup until senshyn is ready to take over. strome wont likely ever become a top 5 pick player like he was drafted for... but theres a decent chance that he will respond to being on a good team and give better results.

Lets just say that this would be a brutal use of Krug's value. You take on 6.4M for the next 2 years and don't upgrade the team. Bruins give up the best player in the deal, easily. Strome and his 2 points in 18 games this year is not helping. The proposal makes no sense, regardless of who is in it. Also, Strome is a below average centerman and better off on the wing. He's never been over 50 FOW% in his career.

 

[BruinLVGA]

Ban the use of a non-offensive nick name? Is he your friend or something?

It's not exactly oozing class, that nickname.

 

[UConn126]

Question to those who know how the cap works:

Are we accumulating cap space with all these guys being out? Most of them are on rookie deals so not much difference made, but if Chara and Miller and their $7.5 million go on LTIR, are we earning that much prorated space every day in the end that we can bank for the trade deadline and perhaps bring in a guy with a sizable prorated cap hit for the last 6 weeks of the year?

Don't think we earn anything from IR. There are overage exemptions while a player(s) are on LTIR but they still count towards the cap and you don't acrue any of that back

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

Lets just say that this would be a brutal use of Krug's value. You take on 6.4M for the next 2 years and don't upgrade the team. Bruins give up the best player in the deal, easily. Strome and his 2 points in 18 games this year is not helping. The proposal makes no sense, regardless of who is in it. Also, Strome is a below average centerman and better off on the wing. He's never been over 50 FOW% in his career.

im still waiting for you to offer up a proposal of your own for us to evaluate. did I miss it when you took a stab at it? join in and have some fun. I don't get why anyone just wants to tear down other peoples ideas and not offer any themselves

that said... you might be right. I think the logic of my deal is worth gambling but im not going to bet my house and guarantee it works

trades are about taking a risk usually. I obviously have more faith in Shattenkirk and strome benefitting from being in a better place to succeed. I obviously value their raw talent and feel they are currently in bad situations.

sometimes it works... sometimes it doesn't. but even on a downside guarantee I feel the deal helps us

 

[UConn126]

after rangers picked up strome today... I think it opens a trade opportunity for us

I think kevin Shattenkirk at 1/2 price would be the qualified pp qb we can make do with the next 3 seasons after we trade krug. hes not as good, but 1/2 price would be just 3.325 million and that would fit on our team. I also think he could be a great partner for grezlyck. super mobile partnership playing protected 3rd pair mins.

I also want strome of course... the proposal makes no sense unless hes in it. hes a 25 year old right shot center/winger who has been very poorly developed. hes signed the next 2 years at 3.1 million

my trade proposal is a 2-2

kevin Shattenkirk {1/2 retained}
ryan strome
for
torey krug
noel accari

honestly Shattenkirk hasn't worked out for ny… but hes not a first pair dman. when he was a second pair guy in st louis he was fine. he will be fine for us too playing behind both McAvoy and carlo

in the short term strome would be an upgrade as a 3rd line center until one of our kids wrestles the job away so we have room for him. looking forward to next season we should dump backes contract and strome can fill in that spot in the lineup until senshyn is ready to take over. strome wont likely ever become a top 5 pick player like he was drafted for... but theres a decent chance that he will respond to being on a good team and give better results.

I'm pretty sure you called ne out on Jeff Carter not working with the cap, but now you want to bring in Shattenkirk with a bigger hit? He's a downgrade from Krug at this point and he costs more for longer. Like Shatty, but hard no on the Bruins aquiring him.

IMO we dont need to do anything with the blue line, our forward group needs the help.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

im still waiting for you to offer up a proposal of your own for us to evaluate. did I miss it when you took a stab at it? join in and have some fun. I don't get why anyone just wants to tear down other peoples ideas and not offer any themselves

This is such an annoying whine. Where does it say that anyone has to make proposals here? Where? I'm reading..... I don't see any official rule. There's no taking a stab at you or anyone who makes a proposal. I read the proposal, and comment. That's all. That's what I like doing. Either respond to my criticisms (or praises -- very rare since I don't find myself seeing a lot of good proposals here) or ignore them. If I find myself really wanting to post a made up proposal in my head, I will post. I will even tag you in it to get your opinion!!

Actually, here you go! I've done this one before. Critique away:

To EDM: Senyshyn

To BOS: Connor McDavid

 

[BruinLVGA]

im still waiting for you to offer up a proposal of your own for us to evaluate. did I miss it when you took a stab at it? join in and have some fun. I don't get why anyone just wants to tear down other peoples ideas and not offer any themselves

that said... you might be right. I think the logic of my deal is worth gambling but im not going to bet my house and guarantee it works

trades are about taking a risk usually. I obviously have more faith in Shattenkirk and strome benefitting from being in a better place to succeed. I obviously value their raw talent and feel they are currently in bad situations.

sometimes it works... sometimes it doesn't. but even on a downside guarantee I feel the deal helps us

Strome looks to be a major dud, tbh. Me not want.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

I'm pretty sure you called ne out on Jeff Carter not working with the cap, but now you want to bring in Shattenkirk with a bigger hit? He's a downgrade from Krug at this point and he costs more for longer. Like Shatty, but hard no on the Bruins aquiring him.

IMO we dont need to do anything with the blue line, our forward group needs the help.

no I proposed many times to trade for carter. I just pointed out we have to move equal cap hit out. if I called out one of your proposals im guessing you were offering no cap to LA in exchanged for carter

my proposal works as follows

McAvoy... gets his new deal... untouched... he partners with moore who we have committed to
carlo… gets his new deal... hopefully chara is back healthy for another year... also no effect on his deal
now I put in Shattenkirk at 3.2 mill instead of krug… partner him with gryz

this makes miller expendable... let him go and replace with a elc contract

up front...
Bergeron/marchand/pastrnak stay the same
krecji/debrusk/Nordstrom no change
strome joins the 3rd line and replaces either Heinen or backes… both are equal or greater cap hits

so as far as the cap effect on the team goes ive reduced it without a huge reduction in the quality of the player we have in our lineup. and looking forward I don't anticipate raises for the 2 guys I bring in... but krug should get a huge raise. the cap savings get even bigger as we move forward

I always take cap consideration into account for all my proposals

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

Strome looks to be a major dud, tbh. Me not want.

his overall lack of compete seems to be a problem... but then again I watched him a lot here in Edmonton and he was never really given a chance to succeed. I think he got about 3 periods of time on mcdavids line the entire time he was here.

oilers depth is sadly pathetic and whoever plays on the 3rd line gets no help at all. the pp has no room either. a guy like strome who doesn't have strong compete ingrained in him to begin with probably needs a few more encouragements to bring out the best in him.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

This is such an annoying whine. Where does it say that anyone has to make proposals here? Where? I'm reading..... I don't see any official rule. There's no taking a stab at you or anyone who makes a proposal. I read the proposal, and comment. That's all. That's what I like doing. Either respond to my criticisms (or praises -- very rare since I don't find myself seeing a lot of good proposals here) or ignore them. If I find myself really wanting to post a made up proposal in my head, I will post. I will even tag you in it to get your opinion!!

Actually, here you go! I've done this one before. Critique away:

To EDM: Senyshyn

To BOS: Connor McDavid

hell... I wish I had thought of that one. ok, I cant compete. you can go back to the shadows and let me have this thing... please... I guess this is just one more proof careful to us for what we wish for cause I had no idea id be shown up this brutally

and to be fair... you are far better than alarge group of people here that just bitch bitch bitch. I do read you. you do have things to say

I just wish more of you would join in the fun here with us. its so easy to just say a trade wont work. but its far more interesting to offer your idea of one that will

you might have fun here tearing down other peoples ideas... but the rest of us want to have fun too

 

[Mainehockey33]

Just because Chara is out doesn’t mean we need another LD. When other players get healthy the defense still looks pretty good.
Grzelcyk-Mcavoy
Krug-Carlo
Lauzon/Zboril/Vaak-Miller

If anything we should still be looking for either a center or top 6 wing, and we could still use the defensive depth to acquire the player.

 

[compan]

This is such an annoying whine. Where does it say that anyone has to make proposals here? Where? I'm reading..... I don't see any official rule. There's no taking a stab at you or anyone who makes a proposal. I read the proposal, and comment. That's all. That's what I like doing. Either respond to my criticisms (or praises -- very rare since I don't find myself seeing a lot of good proposals here) or ignore them. If I find myself really wanting to post a made up proposal in my head, I will post. I will even tag you in it to get your opinion!!

Actually, here you go! I've done this one before. Critique away:

To EDM: Senyshyn

To BOS: Connor McDavid

I like it but I think Chiarelli asks for a conditional 4th and MAYBE wants a role player like Kuraly. Although maybe we can sign Chris Kelly to a 1 year contract and package him instead.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

I like it but I think Chiarelli asks for a conditional 4th and MAYBE wants a role player like Kuraly. Although maybe we can sign Chris Kelly to a 1 year contract and package him instead.

I like this.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

I like it but I think Chiarelli asks for a conditional 4th and MAYBE wants a role player like Kuraly. Although maybe we can sign Chris Kelly to a 1 year contract and package him instead.

you jest... but you probably forget Kelly was in Edmonton on a tryout type arrangement already this time last year. I was actually pretty shocked when he didn't get signed Chris Kelly? Expect Edmonton Oilers to sign him shortly, says NHL insider