Proposal: Bruins Trade Proposals III

[maxl7]

I was all for buying low on him before this video.. Which yes I'd say his stock just dropped even more.

But you have to really start to question his character after adding this to his list right below his falling out in Colorado, no?

No.

I guarantee every player in the league has said worse things about a coach.

 

[maxl7]

I like the Heinen-Backes-Bjork 3rd line we rolled with last night. I think we should keep that line together to let it build some consistency and chemistry.

To me, the issue is the 2nd line. Krejci and DeBrusk showed they can play well together last year, we just need to figure out what to do with that RW spot. I've been touting Carter from the Kings, as he could play center or RW, but I also wonder if we could perhaps get Toffoli from them. One of the young D and a pick should get it done.

The Kings aren't trading a forward. They're looking to add to their forward corps, not subtract.

 

[JCRO]

No.

I guarantee every player in the league has said worse things about a coach.

Kid was a problem child in Colorado. Somewhat lacked evidence on exactly what happened there. But he made it pretty well known he wasn't happy.

Now this in Ottawa.

Not sure how you can say you're not at least questioning his character after this?

 

[BruinDust]

Kid was a problem child in Colorado. Somewhat lacked evidence on exactly what happened there. But he made it pretty well known he wasn't happy.

Now this in Ottawa.

Not sure how you can say you're not at least questioning his character after this?

I think it says more about the Assistant Coach than it does Duchene.

 

[Sheppy]

I think it says more about the Assistant Coach than it does Duchene.

I think it's safe to say this happens a lot of the time, just unfortunate that the UBER uploaded it, lol.

 

[UConn126]

The Kings aren't trading a forward. They're looking to add to their forward corps, not subtract.

They're dead last in the league right now. They'd be fools to not explore any avenue that would bring in some new, young talent.

 

[Mainehockey33]

Kid was a problem child in Colorado. Somewhat lacked evidence on exactly what happened there. But he made it pretty well known he wasn't happy.

Now this in Ottawa.

Not sure how you can say you're not at least questioning his character after this?

Definitely. I didn’t want anything to do with him when I heard he gave up on Colorado for half a season. I made some posts saying I’d rather have Spooner than Duchene. Recently I changed my mind on him because he started playing better for Ottawa so I thought he turned a corner, I guess not. I don’t know if I’d be completely against him as a really cheap rental, but nothing long term.

 

[Oates2Neely]

I was all for buying low on him before this video.. Which yes I'd say his stock just dropped even more.

But you have to really start to question his character after adding this to his list right below his falling out in Colorado, no?

I’d chalk that up to guys being guys. He doesn’t have the character of a Chara or Bergeron but then again not many do.

He’s fast and can score. I’d take a chance

 

[LouJersey]

I was told that Josh Anderson isn't as good as Donato, Heinen and Bjork.

Funny but guys like Virtanen, Anderson and Bennett were dismissed as not being worth one of our kid wingers but they all have performed better than I ever would have imagined. Bennett moreso his physical game, but the other two have some pop.

 

[JCRO]

I think it says more about the Assistant Coach than it does Duchene.

I understand that.

And the rest of it was sort of locker room talk although they were ripping into their own team pretty good as well. Not just the coach (powerplay, penalty kill).

All Im saying is Duchene seems to be starting to finding himself on the negative side of things within his teams.

 

[Gordoff]

I want nothing to do with Duchene. He’s a virus. A guy who admits he’s not paying attention is lazy.

Couldn't you just see him playing for Clode in Montreal?!?

 

[Sheppy]

Funny but guys like Virtanen, Anderson and Bennett were dismissed as not being worth one of our kid wingers but they all have performed better than I ever would have imagined. Bennett moreso his physical game, but the other two have some pop.

All 3 are guys I wanted them to push for, I was shot down on basically everything, lol.

I guarantee you Anderson finishes with more goals than Heinen, Bjork and Donato put together.

 

[maxl7]

They're dead last in the league right now. They'd be fools to not explore any avenue that would bring in some new, young talent.

They're fools for thinking that they don't need to rebuild. I'm not debating their foolishness, just the reality of their misguided attempt to compete.

 

[maxl7]

I understand that.

And the rest of it was sort of locker room talk although they were ripping into their own team pretty good as well. Not just the coach (powerplay, penalty kill).

All Im saying is Duchene seems to be starting to finding himself on the negative side of things within his teams.

Which means it's a perfect opportunity to exploit a market inefficiency and get him cheap. While the rest of the Old Boys Club frowns and furrows their brow at his character and compete and all sorts of other nonsense, the Bruins could strike and get some on-ice talent that makes a difference for a good price.

They won't, though.

 

[gumgum]

Josh Anderson is on pace for 40 goals right now. He won't get 40, but even if he can pot 25, especially at his cap hit, why would CBJ move him for Bjork and a package of lesser assets?

Cause I would like it a lot

 

[JCRO]

Which means it's a perfect opportunity to exploit a market inefficiency and get him cheap. While the rest of the Old Boys Club frowns and furrows their brow at his character and compete and all sorts of other nonsense, the Bruins could strike and get some on-ice talent that makes a difference for a good price.

They won't, though.

LOL what?

And no they wont. Cause Ottawa wont trade within their division.

 

[maxl7]

LOL what?

And no they wont. Cause Ottawa wont trade within their division.

What is confusing about that statement? You don't think NHL GMs are an Old Boys Club?

And Ottawa might not trade within their division, but it doesn't hurt to try.

 

[Sheppy]

Forwards: (Goals and Shots)
1st Line
David Pastrnak (12) - 58
Patrice Bergeron (7) - 47
Brad Marchand (5) - 31
Total = 24 on 136

2nd Line
Jake Debrusk (3) - 30
David Krejci (2) - 15
Anders Bjork (1) - 11
Total = 6 on 56

3rd Line
Joakim Nordstrom (2) - 28
Danton Heinen (0) - 14
David Backes (0) - 13
Total = 2 on 55

4th Line
Sean Kuraly (1) - 24
Chris Wagner (1) - 22
Noel Accairi (0) - 17
Total = 2 on 63

Extra:
Ryan Donato (1) - 12

This should really tell you the state of this team. They need secondary help, big time. Heinen, Bjork or Donato should be moved by Xmas if there's no improvement.

Also, the 4th line has more shots on net than the 2nd and 3rd line.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

What is confusing about that statement? You don't think NHL GMs are an Old Boys Club?

And Ottawa might not trade within their division, but it doesn't hurt to try.

Before we go down this silly road how about you provide your definition of a NHL GM Old Boys Club.

 

[BruinDust]

Funny but guys like Virtanen, Anderson and Bennett were dismissed as not being worth one of our kid wingers but they all have performed better than I ever would have imagined. Bennett moreso his physical game, but the other two have some pop.

Half this board wouldn't of traded Zach Senyshyn this past summer for Virtanen, arguing about some perceived greater upside in Senyshyn when the reality was Senyshyn's AHL numbers were only slightly better than Virtanen's NHL numbers.

 

[JCRO]

What is confusing about that statement? You don't think NHL GMs are an Old Boys Club?

And Ottawa might not trade within their division, but it doesn't hurt to try.

I thought you were saying I was apart of some Old Boys Club

I think Duchene is definitely going to be moved. Just not here IMO.

What they gave up for him alone has already scorched them. Now this comes out to the public.

 

[Sheppy]

Half this board wouldn't of traded Zach Senyshyn this past summer for Virtanen, arguing about some perceived greater upside in Senyshyn when the reality was Senyshyn's AHL numbers were only slightly better than Virtanen's NHL numbers.

Virtanen was an absolute low risk, high reward type trade. Something they really should have looked into.

 

[DrJustice]

Don't you all wear yourself out too much patting yourself on the back for your astute insight that "The Bruins need to score more goals."

Honestly don't know how you all don't have GM jobs at this point.

 

[gumgum]

Virtanen was an absolute low risk, high reward type trade. Something they really should have looked into.

Was there ever a time that it was rumored the Canucks were motivated to possibly move him? My recollection of his time there is actually that a lot of fans wanted him traded but that the organization itself always showed too much faith in him for their liking even when he was demoted.

Interesting comparison with him and Bjork, he put on like 15 pounds to play at a heavier weight I think his second year pro and it proved more prohibitive than anything. I really feel like the weight Bjork has put on is having a similar effect, and also that he's trying to change himself stylistically too much. Idk.

 

[maxl7]

Before we go down this silly road how about you provide your definition of a NHL GM Old Boys Club.

An insular network of former pros and "guys who played the game". Hockey will change eventually and more and more "outsiders" will get their shot just like we've seen in the other major sports, but for now it's still incredibly hard to break into unless you were a player or are related to a former player/executive.

All of this is beside my main point which is that a lot of GMs (and hell, fans, too) put too much stock in intangible attributes that have nothing to do with on-ice play. That's something that can be exploited to bring in players who are perceived to be flawed but can actually contribute where it matters.