Confirmed with Link: Bruins sign Krug and Smith (1.4 each)

[member 96824]

http://capgeek.com/player/221

Yup, I'm wrong. Don't know why I was thinking that. I thought for sure I had read something about that, but too good to be true Got my hopes up

On Bergeron's page, the signing bonus is factored into the NHL salary number, not seperated...that's probably where my confusion was.

Glad I asked.

Carry on, I'm an idiot!

 

[TD Charlie]

I am very shocked that it happened in this order. I thought for sure the cap move would happen before the signings were made offical. They must have the deal done and waiting for approval from the NHL or something. Very interested to see what the move is.

That's my take as well. Hopefully the trade is already a done deal and just waiting on signatures or a slow fax or something

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

the sad thing about this is that with these deals he could have still traded Kelly and kept Iginla.

 

[LSCII]

I agree, but I think they'll likely move a few lower salary guys rather than Boychuk or Marchand.

Let's hope so...

 

[Scotto74]

Whoa, it's way too early in the day to be so existentialistic, scott...

If they have to move something significant to create space, that's a problem to me. If it's guys like McQuaid, Bart, or Kelly, I'm fine with it.

fine I get your second point I just don't undertand how that has anything to do with being a negitive for these two guys signing for so little. If they signed for MORE then we expected I could see your point but they signed for less.

 

[jokerboysmith]

Wow...great bargains for both.

Hoping Caron and Bartowski are on there way out.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

How's this?
CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Milan Lucic ($6.000m) / David Krejci ($5.250m) / Loui Eriksson ($4.250m)
Brad Marchand ($4.500m) / Patrice Bergeron ($6.500m) / Reilly Smith ($1.400m)
Chris Kelly ($3.000m) / Carl Soderberg ($1.008m) / Matt Fraser ($0.625m)
Daniel Paille ($1.300m) / Gregory Campbell ($1.600m) / Jordan Caron ($0.600m)
Simon Gagne ($1.600m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Zdeno Chara ($6.917m) / Dougie Hamilton ($0.894m)
Dennis Seidenberg ($4.000m) / Johnny Boychuk ($3.367m)
Torey Krug ($1.400m) / Adam McQuaid ($1.567m)
Kevan Miller ($0.800m) /
GOALTENDERS
Tuukka Rask ($7.000m)
Niklas Svedberg ($0.600m)
LTIR
Marc Savard ($4.027m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$4,779,500
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,957,000; BONUSES: $600,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $43,000

LTIR Savard on last day of camp, Bartkowski traded for a puck...er pick

 

[Scotto74]

How's this?
CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Milan Lucic ($6.000m) / David Krejci ($5.250m) / Loui Eriksson ($4.250m)
Brad Marchand ($4.500m) / Patrice Bergeron ($6.500m) / Reilly Smith ($1.400m)
Chris Kelly ($3.000m) / Carl Soderberg ($1.008m) / Matt Fraser ($0.625m)
Daniel Paille ($1.300m) / Gregory Campbell ($1.600m) / Jordan Caron ($0.600m)
Simon Gagne ($1.600m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Zdeno Chara ($6.917m) / Dougie Hamilton ($0.894m)
Dennis Seidenberg ($4.000m) / Johnny Boychuk ($3.367m)
Torey Krug ($1.400m) / Adam McQuaid ($1.567m)
Kevan Miller ($0.800m) /
GOALTENDERS
Tuukka Rask ($7.000m)
Niklas Svedberg ($0.600m)
LTIR
Marc Savard ($4.027m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$4,779,500
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,957,000; BONUSES: $600,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $43,000

LTIR Savard on last day of camp, Bartkowski traded for a puck...er pick

take out Caron put in Robbins as the 13th and put Gagne in on 4th line RW and I like it. Send caron with Bart as a package deal for a pick even though it lowers Barts value.

 

[Dellstrom]

How's this?
CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Milan Lucic ($6.000m) / David Krejci ($5.250m) / Loui Eriksson ($4.250m)
Brad Marchand ($4.500m) / Patrice Bergeron ($6.500m) / Reilly Smith ($1.400m)
Chris Kelly ($3.000m) / Carl Soderberg ($1.008m) / Matt Fraser ($0.625m)
Daniel Paille ($1.300m) / Gregory Campbell ($1.600m) / Jordan Caron ($0.600m)
Simon Gagne ($1.600m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Zdeno Chara ($6.917m) / Dougie Hamilton ($0.894m)
Dennis Seidenberg ($4.000m) / Johnny Boychuk ($3.367m)
Torey Krug ($1.400m) / Adam McQuaid ($1.567m)
Kevan Miller ($0.800m) /
GOALTENDERS
Tuukka Rask ($7.000m)
Niklas Svedberg ($0.600m)
LTIR
Marc Savard ($4.027m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$4,779,500
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,957,000; BONUSES: $600,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $43,000

LTIR Savard on last day of camp, Bartkowski traded for a puck...er pick

Only issue - Gagne isn't getting paid 1.6m to sit in the press box. He'll play on the 3rd line or he'll be dismissed from camp. Florek is a better option on the 4th line or in the box.

 

[remer]

How's this?
CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Milan Lucic ($6.000m) / David Krejci ($5.250m) / Loui Eriksson ($4.250m)
Brad Marchand ($4.500m) / Patrice Bergeron ($6.500m) / Reilly Smith ($1.400m)
Chris Kelly ($3.000m) / Carl Soderberg ($1.008m) / Matt Fraser ($0.625m)
Daniel Paille ($1.300m) / Gregory Campbell ($1.600m) / Jordan Caron ($0.600m)
Simon Gagne ($1.600m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Zdeno Chara ($6.917m) / Dougie Hamilton ($0.894m)
Dennis Seidenberg ($4.000m) / Johnny Boychuk ($3.367m)
Torey Krug ($1.400m) / Adam McQuaid ($1.567m)
Kevan Miller ($0.800m) /
GOALTENDERS
Tuukka Rask ($7.000m)
Niklas Svedberg ($0.600m)
LTIR
Marc Savard ($4.027m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$4,779,500
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,957,000; BONUSES: $600,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $43,000

LTIR Savard on last day of camp, Bartkowski traded for a puck...er pick

Spooner doesn't make the team?
Slow looking line-up.

 

[doubleminor138]

Whoa, it's way too early in the day to be so existentialistic, scott...

If they have to move something significant to create space, that's a problem to me. If it's guys like McQuaid, Bart, or Kelly, I'm fine with it.

What a pessimist you are.

These guys signed and the team is intact. Its pretty amazing, IMO.

Yes, there remains some moves to be made in order to keep things going in the right direction. But until those moments come into play, it is OK to say "good job getting this done" and then wring your hands about the next fateful crisis.

 

[Scotto74]

What a pessimist you are.

These guys signed and the team is intact. Its pretty amazing, IMO.

Yes, there remains some moves to be made in order to keep things going in the right direction. But until those moments come into play, it is OK to say "good job getting this done" and then wrong your hands about the next fateful crisis.

But DM these guys only signed temporary deals.


Is everyone else on the team signed to a lifetime contract or something?

oh boy what will Lonnie come up with next.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

Only issue - Gagne isn't getting paid 1.6m to sit in the press box. He'll play on the 3rd line or he'll be dismissed from camp. Florek is a better option on the 4th line or in the box.

Gagne only gets 1.6 to get them to where they need to be cap-wise so they can LTIR Savard before opening day. Ideally it would be a 2-way contract and they could send him down and pay him less as needed. He'd probably get 3rd line time in games where they want to use Robbins in which case they could send Fraser down and it would be an even swap cap-wise.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

Spooner doesn't make the team?
Slow looking line-up.

Spooner probably gets a few games in Campbell's spot to start the season since Campbell is hurt. Then when Campbell comes back they can either trade him or just hang on to both for insurance.

 

[MTaylorJ1]

How's this?
CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Milan Lucic ($6.000m) / David Krejci ($5.250m) / Loui Eriksson ($4.250m)
Brad Marchand ($4.500m) / Patrice Bergeron ($6.500m) / Reilly Smith ($1.400m)
Chris Kelly ($3.000m) / Carl Soderberg ($1.008m) / Matt Fraser ($0.625m)
Daniel Paille ($1.300m) / Gregory Campbell ($1.600m) / Jordan Caron ($0.600m)
Simon Gagne ($1.600m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Zdeno Chara ($6.917m) / Dougie Hamilton ($0.894m)
Dennis Seidenberg ($4.000m) / Johnny Boychuk ($3.367m)
Torey Krug ($1.400m) / Adam McQuaid ($1.567m)
Kevan Miller ($0.800m) /
GOALTENDERS
Tuukka Rask ($7.000m)
Niklas Svedberg ($0.600m)
LTIR
Marc Savard ($4.027m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$4,779,500
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,957,000; BONUSES: $600,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $43,000

LTIR Savard on last day of camp, Bartkowski traded for a puck...er pick

We probably could have gotten ourselves something really nice with our bonus overage plus a few grinders sent away last offseason for cheaper replacements. Maybe even gotten Smith and Krug signed to an extra year or two under good terms while we had leverage.

You're not a defensive liability...just a liability everywhere else.........offense, neutral zone, cap.

 

[bruins repeat time]

the sad thing about this is that with these deals he could have still traded Kelly and kept Iginla.

The only way I would be sad is if Peter signed Iginla to the contact he got in Colorado

 

[Stone Clode]

I just cannot fathom how Chia or Claude sees this as a more competitive team with Boychuk or Marchand not on it, and Chris Kelly on it. Plain and simple: What Chris Kelly brings at $3 million per year is not worth it more than what Boychuk $3.3 million or Marchand at $4.5 million. Chris Kelly is a decent player, but if you want to take a cap casualty due to Iginla, I fail to see why it has to be Boychuk or Marchand.

I'm going to hold any judgement until something actually happens, though. I suppose you can use the "trade value" argument, but you always run the issue of will the player fit? We've seen it plenty of times already.

And to those having Gagne sign at 1.6? What? The guy is here on an invite. I'd be shocked if he gets more than a million. He's fighting for a chance to prove himself, he doesn't deserve any money until he proves he can stick and still has it, IMO.

 

[MTaylorJ1]

I just cannot fathom how Chia or Claude sees this as a more competitive team with Boychuk or Marchand not on it, and Chris Kelly on it. Plain and simple: What Chris Kelly brings at $3 million per year is not worth it more than what Boychuk $3.3 million or Marchand at $4.5 million. Chris Kelly is a decent player, but if you want to take a cap casualty due to Iginla, I fail to see why it has to be Boychuk or Marchand.

I'm going to hold any judgement until something actually happens, though. I suppose you can use the "trade value" argument, but you always run the issue of will the player fit? We've seen it plenty of times already.

And to those having Gagne sign at 1.6? What? The guy is here on an invite. I'd be shocked if he gets more than a million. He's fighting for a chance to prove himself, he doesn't deserve any money until he proves he can stick and still has it, IMO.

I agree with almost everything in the 1st paragraph. The only thing I'd add though is that is it would be Boychuk for _____, and that _____ would likely be something fairly useful. I don't think you'd get anything back for Kelly that's all that interesting at this point.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

The only way I would be sad is if Peter signed Iginla to the contact he got in Colorado

We're paying Kelly 3 million for 2 of Iginla's 3 years. Would much rather give the difference to Iginla. IMO Iggy will be worth it for all 3 years, but we'll just have to wait and see if I'm right. He was more valuable to this team than Kelly was at any rate. As for the "he's old and slow stuff, let's see how he keeps up with Duchene and MacKinnon.

 

[Cronuss]

Aaron Ward ‏@TSNAaronWard 1m

Torey Krug contract with Boston Bruins is 1 year at $900k / $500k signing bonus #TSN

Krug is worth so much more than this. What a steal.

If he keeps up his pace, he is going to get a big, well-deserved pay day after this.

 

[DNE3]

Spooner probably gets a few games in Campbell's spot to start the season since Campbell is hurt. Then when Campbell comes back they can either trade him or just hang on to both for insurance.

Why would Kelly, Campbell and Caron fill out the roster, rather than Spooner, Florek and Robins. I thought the plan was to move on from the journeymen on a slow team that was eliminated in the playoff second round last year.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

Why would Kelly, Campbell and Caron fill out the roster, rather than Spooner, Florek and Robins. I thought the plan was to move on from the journeymen on a slow team that was eliminated in the second round last year.

Depth and flexibility I guess. Robbins is cheap and on a 2 way deal so they can call him up any time they need him. Meanwhile when guys inevitably get hurt they have experience *and* youth to fill those spots instead of just more youth. Personally I would have moved Kelly and found a way to keep Iginla, but as things stand now I can see the logic of starting the season with the vets and gradually getting the kids into the lineup.

 

[Fenian24]

Not trying to be rude, and I understand your dislike of Eriksson, but how much have you seen Chris Stewart play? He has a big body and is much more physical than Eriksson will ever be, but I promise you he will frustrate you more than Eriksson ever has. PROMISE. The guy has great talent, hates to play defense, and takes more nights off than Michael Ryder. I've watched too many Blues games (have Gamecenter, Blues are my favorite team to watch besides the Bruins), and dear god, there is not a player who has an on-off switch more than him. That, and he can't stay healthy.

I watched a lot of him in Colarado, not as much in St. Louis and have liked what I have seen in the preseason from him in Buffalo. I agree that he takes shifts and whole games off, but I think he would bring more to the table than Eriksson, has a much higher upside than Loui and if you put him with Bergeron and Marchand wouldn't be that much of a defensive liability.

 

[Therick67]

Why would Kelly, Campbell and Caron fill out the roster, rather than Spooner, Florek and Robins. I thought the plan was to move on from the journeymen on a slow team that was eliminated in the playoff second round last year.

We've forgotten about that in the euphoria of signing Krug and Smith..

 

[Taz#24]

According to capgeek

We just have to deal BARTKOWSKI for a pick or prospect, LTIR SAVARD and we're GTG.

23 man roster
Cap Ceiling-$69,000,000
Cap hit-$68,792,000
Space-$208,000

M. Lucic

$6,000,000

D. Krejci

$5,250,000

L. Eriksson

$4,250,000



B. Marchand

$4,500,000

P. Bergeron

$6,500,000

R. Smith

$1,400,000



C. Kelly

$3,000,000

C. Soderberg

$1,008,333

S. Gagne

$700,000



D. Paille

$1,300,000

G. Campbell

$1,600,000

J. Caron or Fraser?

$600,000 or 625,000

R. Spooner (at least until Campbell is healthy)

$760,000

B. Robins (Designated tough guy)

$600,000



Defense

Z. Chara

$6,916,667

J. Boychuk

$3,366,667


D. Seidenberg

$4,000,000

D. Hamilton

$894,167


T. Krug
$1,400,000

A. McQuaid

$1,566,667

K. Miller

$800,000


Goaltenders

T. Rask

$7,000,000

N. Svedberg

$600,000