Proposal: Bruins - Sabres

[jonlin]

If Bergeron and Krejci is retiring and Bruins decide to do a retool, they have a few pieces that will return a lot that could be available. Buffalo seem like a good tradepartner, even if its inside division. Buffalo`s biggest needs are a goalie and a stellar 3-4D. Boston need C:s and cap/picks

Buffalo get:

G Swayman RFA extension in the 3-4M range
D Carlo 4.1M UFA 2027

Boston get:

C Mittelstadt 2.5M RFA 2024
D Jokiharju 2.5M RFA 2024
G Luukkonen .837M RFA 2024
1st 2024 top5 protected

Would you do it?

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[BlueTacos]

If Bergeron and Krejci is retiring and Bruins decide to do a retool, they have a few pieces that will return a lot that could be available. Buffalo seem like a good tradepartner, even if its inside division. Buffalo`s biggest needs are a goalie and a stellar 3-4D. Boston need C:s and cap/picks

Buffalo get:

G Swayman RFA extension in the 3-4M range
D Carlo 4.1M UFA 2027

Boston get:

C Mittelstadt 2.5M RFA 2024
D Jokiharju 2.5M RFA 2024
G Luukkonen 8.37M RFA 2024
1st 2024 top5 protected

Would you do it?

No

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

If Bergeron and Krejci is retiring and Bruins decide to do a retool, they have a few pieces that will return a lot that could be available. Buffalo seem like a good tradepartner, even if its inside division. Buffalo`s biggest needs are a goalie and a stellar 3-4D. Boston need C:s and cap/picks

Buffalo get:

G Swayman RFA extension in the 3-4M range
D Carlo 4.1M UFA 2027

Boston get:

C Mittelstadt 2.5M RFA 2024
D Jokiharju 2.5M RFA 2024
G Luukkonen 8.37M RFA 2024
1st 2024 top5 protected

Would you do it?

Damn 8.37M for Luukkonen? :O

 

[jonlin]

Damn 8.37M for Luukkonen? :O

A small dot-misstake...

 

[Old Navy Goat]

Paying full value for assets from a cap strapped team makes no sense. Zero reason to move Mittelstadt, but Joki and UPL could move for upgrades. Saying that, I'd rather see who's available via UFA for a couple years contract then ever deal with the Bruins.

 

[jonlin]

Paying full value for assets from a cap strapped team makes no sense. Zero reason to move Mittelstadt, but Joki and UPL could move for upgrades. Saying that, I'd rather see who's available via UFA for a couple years contract then ever deal with the Bruins.

Swayman is a really good goalie and Carlo a pretty good stay-at-home D, locked up for years. Ideal partner for Power. Thoose dont come cheap. Carlo is RHD and 6,7, 220pnds. +41 on the year. He is a bargain at his age, size for that price

 

[Old Navy Goat]

Boston will let ufa's walk and try moving other pieces before Carlo, hence why Buffalo should look at players like Clifton or Graves that can pk and play a stay at home role next to Power.

 

[Iwishihadaspacebar]

If that's the sort of price, I'd think Buffalo might speak to the Jets to discuss Pionk and Hellebuyck

 

[kthx]

Not saying it's fair value but if Buffalo and Boston would make a trade Boston would heavily try to get Cozens.
Also Sabres have been very patient with Mittelstadt, why would they move him now?

 

[wintersej]

Boston has better ways to save a couple million on the cap than this.

 

[Old Navy Goat]

Why would Buffalo even consider moving a 22yo C that just scored 30+ goals and is locked up for 7 more seasons at a 7mil cap hit. There isn't a single player on Boston that would entice Buffalo to move Cozens with the exception of Pastrnak

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

Sabres seem to be all aboard the Levi train, Swayman doesn’t sway, man. Also you guys made us witness Bjork, so no.

 

[Eddie Munson]

No. Again, the idea of Boston moving pieces with value ie Debrusk, Carlo, Swayman Vs Coyle, Hall, Forbort, Grzelcyk would not be just for cap relief but to improve a weakness. It’s clear Boston needs centers moving forward. I like Mittlestadt but he’s just not better than Zacha or Coyle and he certainly isn’t a top line guy so he’s just not a fit. The rest of the package in a vacuum is fine but it’s lesser pieces replacing better ones for the price of a 1st.

Can’t see that being worth it for the B’s.

These teams are not good fits as what Buffalo needs and what Boston would want aren’t realistic.

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

Not saying it's fair value but if Buffalo and Boston would make a trade Boston would heavily try to get Cozens.
Also Sabres have been very patient with Mittelstadt, why would they move him now?

Cozens is a no go .Here to stay.

 

[Eddie Munson]

Cozens is a no go .Here to stay.

100% fair. That said, for Swayman and Carlo, Buffalo just doesn’t have pieces they’d be willing to offer to get the Bruins to bite. I don’t blame either of them considering they’re division rivals.

 

[Oates2Neely]

Completely unimpressive package from Buffalo. Mittelstadt is mediocre, Bruins have Keyser/ Bussi who could backup Ullmark if Swayman was moved. Carlo isn’t moving as Clifton & Grzelcyk would be dealt first for cap space.

You can have Derek Forbort for a 3rd

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

I like how fans think that because Bergeron and Krejci might retire that Boston will just sell off the entire team.

The last time they did that was over 15 years ago.

Boston has players teams want to win.
If they want them they will have to give talent and youth in return.
End of discussion.

As for the cap, not worried. We have UFAs that wont be resigned and new core players that will be. We wont be a basement team after Bergeron retires no matter how much everyone else is drooling for us to be. Our GM has made sure of that. Center will be a weakness, but that can be fixed with a single trade.

This trade helps Boston zero percent. We get worse, not better. Sorry, pass.

 

[Dr Quincy]

If Bergeron and Krejci is retiring and Bruins decide to do a retool, they have a few pieces that will return a lot that could be available. Buffalo seem like a good tradepartner, even if its inside division. Buffalo`s biggest needs are a goalie and a stellar 3-4D. Boston need C:s and cap/picks

Buffalo get:

G Swayman RFA extension in the 3-4M range
D Carlo 4.1M UFA 2027

Boston get:

C Mittelstadt 2.5M RFA 2024
D Jokiharju 2.5M RFA 2024
G Luukkonen .837M RFA 2024
1st 2024 top5 protected

Would you do it?

Easy no for BOS

 

[UConn126]

Why is Buffalo trading for a goalie when Levi looks legit?


Also Boston just simply isn't trading Swayman lol. Y'all gotta accept that and move on.

 

[Tanknation]

Swayman is a really good goalie and Carlo a pretty good stay-at-home D, locked up for years. Ideal partner for Power. Thoose dont come cheap. Carlo is RHD and 6,7, 220pnds. +41 on the year. He is a bargain at his age, size for that price

Any ECHL goalie would look real good playing for Boston.

 

[jonlin]

I like how fans think that because Bergeron and Krejci might retire that Boston will just sell off the entire team.

Do you realise that Mittelstadt has 50+ on the 3rd line for Buffalo? It`s not like its only spare-parts.

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

Do you realise that Mittelstadt has 50+ on the 3rd line for Buffalo? It`s not like its only spare-parts.

It might be a personal preference here, but I have zero interest in Mittelstadt.
Zacha is doing great as our Krejci replacement. We need a 1C for Bergeron when he retires. I don't see Mittelstadt as that. Coyle at 3 C is a lock and 4C we have a very good Nosek, eventually Beecher. 3 of our 4 C positions are filled post-retirement. That's why people are mentioning Couzins so much. Boston's need is a franchise C, not a middle 6 guy.

Now, do you want to prove he is a future 1C on a playoff team?
Go right ahead. Would be an interesting conversation, no doubt.
But simply making him the centerpiece in a Deal where Boston gives up a lot is insufficient. You are going to have to sell him to the posters here.

 

[samsagat]

Goalie problem will be solved by itself in Buffalo.

Levi and Luukko are two fine young goalies.

Buffalo will be next year NJD. They're on the verge of turning the corner.

 

[elchud]

Sabres trading for Swayman is...silly.

I would be interested in Carlo at 4 more years, 4.1 million but he would cost a ton. And why not sign Clifton, 5 years, 4.6 million and not trade any assets.

I'd let Mitts cook another year he is trending up and knocking on the door of the core.

 

[jonlin]

We need a 1C for Bergeron when he retires.

I do know that. However, Carlo and Swayman dont get you a 1C. Mittelstadt will probably peak out as a serviceable 2C. He is the replacement for Krejci. For a 1C you have to pay. Pay a shitload or overpay in UFA for a 28+