98.5 The Sports Hub Bruins know they’re staring down an absolute salary cap nightmare

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Trashpass

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Will gladly accept a somewhat " mediocre" reg season for a more rewarding post season. The 2011 B's werent exactly barnburners that reg season either and struck gold ultimately.

Well ya so would I 🤷‍♂️ I don't see how anyone wouldn't. They weren't barnburners that season but they still won the division and finished with over 100 points so they weren't pushovers either.

I'm fine with a retool year for next season. Get the cap mess figured out. Cap should start rising after next season so should be able to add some decent pieces then.
 
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Let Orlov walk. Go younger

Agreed.Orlov is going to want a big money big term deal since this will be his last big pay day. He's in that grey area age wise where I don't like handing them big contracts.

2 guys I'd look at would be Graves and Soucey, not as talented as Orlov but are younger, big bodies that can play in the top 4 and will be cheaper. Of course salary will have to be moved out to bring in any UFAs but I think finding someone to play in that top 4 has to be a priority.

Also with Bertuzzi I don't keep him over Hall. I'd love to add him and keep Hall but I'm not moving one to keep the other which sadly I don't think is possible cap wise.
 

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I missed the context, as I posted the "Bruins Beat" podcast without checking previous posts.

Both McLaughlin and Evan Marinofsky noted that like Jake DeBrusk, David is better taking care of D these days, though far less so than I prefer.

Another poster (sorry, I don't remember who; come and claim your prize) noted that, on a first line with Bergeron & Brad, Pastrnak didn't need to be defensively responsible -- Patrice and Marchand would handle that.

Well, Patrice might be back next season, but regardless, and especially if sans Bergeron, David has to step up his defensive game. He remains far too careless out there, and to me at least, that is not acceptable.

Also, I DO NOT WANT RYAN NUGENT HOPKINS AS MY NO. #1 CENTER FOR THE SAME REASON. NO DEFENSE TO SPEAK OF. NO SCHEIFELE. NO DUBOIS, who appears to create drama wherever he goes

On December 31, 2020, Dubois signed a two-year, $10 million contract with the Blue Jackets.[12] However, two weeks after signing the contract, he requested a trade from the team.[13] While Blue Jackets' general manager Jarmo Kekäläinen initially stated he was in no rush to trade Dubois, the situation between Dubois and Columbus became increasingly untenable. This culminated in Dubois being benched after the first period during a 3–2 overtime loss to the Tampa Bay Lightning on January 21, 2021, following Dubois' lackadaisical play early in the game.[14] ...

... The Winnipeg Sun remarked that he "embodies everything the Jets want in their lineup and their leadership core," and looked like a possible successor to top centre Mark Scheifele, making the end of his current contract a major issue for the team.[19] However, it was reported near the end of June that Dubois had informed the Jets that he did not intend to sign a new long-term deal, and would test free agency in 2024.[20][19] Reports began to circulate that Dubois instead had an interest in playing for the Montreal Canadiens, the NHL's storied Quebec franchise, with his agent Pat Brisson confirming to TVA Sports that Montreal was "a place, a city he’d like to play in. That’s all I can say about that." On July 15, The Athletic reported that Dubois was attempting to force a trade to the Canadiens, and had attended the 2022 NHL Entry Draft in Montreal in person because he believed a trade would be consummated on the draft floor. However, it was said that Winnipeg general manager Kevin Cheveldayoff had demanded in exchange a player that Canadiens general manager Kent Hughes was unwilling to trade, and instead the Canadiens acquired Kirby Dach from the Chicago Blackhawks at the draft.[21] This report encouraged further speculation as to Dubois' future with the team, amplified further by his decision on July 22 to accept a one-year, $6 million qualifying offer from the team.[22

As noted above, Dubois wants to go to MTL anyway. I therefore reject him on general principle. NO THANKS.

McLaughlin and Marinofksy raised the possibility of pursuing Elias Lindholm instead,


Lindholm is 28, wears an A. RNH is 30 and is unlikely to repeat this past season's performance.

Again, I would keep Matt Gryleck if at all possible. It's absurd to consider trading Hampus. Get a legit #1/#2 D after years -- years -- seeking one. Then trade him. Genius.

Forbort, Clifton, Nosek, Zboril, Nick. I don't think anyone is going to take Mike Reilly @ 3 million; buyout candidate.

I might move on from Frederic but he is a natural center, and the Bruins don't have many in house options @ C.

I would NOT trade Jake DeBrusk.

Unfortunately, at 30 years old and 2X years of 6 million, Taylor Hall may prove a cap casualty. He has performed as well as anyone could ask, and will bring solid return.

As noted elsewhere by others, goaltending is a positional strength. Nearly $10 million tied up in an Ullmark-Swayman tandem, particularly when one or the other will likely receive the bulk of playoff duty, is, unfortunately, financially unrealistic.

There are teams out there in need of goaltending help. Snagging a soon to be Vezina winner for 5 million 2X years is a pretty good bet. A 30 year old goaltender can give you four or five solid years going forward.

This is the Bruins' best bargaining chip and will bring the highest return. Not necessarily in terms of roster players, but draft selection replenishment, and, perhaps, a significant prospect.

Finally -- hooray! -- I'm with those who are willing to take a step back next year in service of restocking draft picks, releasing good to very good NHL players to shed cap, and, most importantly, giving Boston's prospects the chance to grow their game and become NHL regulars.

That process has to begin sometime. It might as well begin next season.

The Bruins will still be "in the conversation," though not favorites.

That's okay.

Retooling a jet fighter in midair is a tricky business. I am confident that Sweeney, with an assist from PRO Gold, can begin the process forthwith.

After what I saw in round one, I am less confident that Jim Montgomery is up to the head coaching job in Boston, though nonetheless willing to give him another season to learn from his mistakes and grow as the man behind the bench.

I would be lying if I said I did not have my doubts. I wish Montgomery the very best, but as a fan, I'll be watching closely from afar. Especially when it matters most, in April & May.
Nosek, Nick, and Clifton are FA so they are gone . Gryz will be gone and not because he is not a good player but is a cap hindrance , so he should be moved. If you are excited about a retooling then you should be looking to move Ullmark and this will be unpopular but move Marchand , Colorado should be all over him . Lindholm would be a nice add for this year but his cost after next year might be a problem . I was not in favor of firing Cassidy but realized that all coaches have a expiration date so maybe had to be canned ,because they players were crying for it . When Monty's name came up I understood his past but felt that he might be worth giving a shot . My problem with his style and enjoyed the regular season it was fun year but I questioned if that style would work in the playoffs ......... I also have issue with the way he handled that first round , I was not impressed
 
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Bergeron is, as he was last year, the key as the future banner raising hall of fame Bruin ... if he re-signs (which I think he will for the 100th year anniversary) it's a minor retool and roll the dice with what they can fit under the cap if he doesn't it's a major retool and just hope to be 7th or 8th and catch lightening in a bottle if everything falls right. Marchy being traded does not happen unless he requests it because he's sacrificed $$ and is a lifetime Bruin in my mind (bergy doesn't re-signs)... I might consider trading Hall to resign Bert but seriously Hall played as well with more limited minutes so maybe keep Hall and pass on Bert if he asks for more. Goalies? it's not easy to let go of the tandem of Ullmark and Sway ...they might get you a first round entrance on their own merit which is great for under $10 million. Defense can be blown up a little ...I'm for Charlie and Hampus but I think Charlie has been under performing offensively for the $$ but love his hitting jam ..rest can be traded or replaced...hopefully for cheap tough as nails no nonsense grit type guys with defensive acumen.
 
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Newhook, 1st and good prospect


Could you imagine

Marchand for newhook, 1st, mid prospect

Ullmark for 1st, 3rd and mid prospect (Darcy keumper return)

Hall for 1st (athletic projected return)

Gryz for a 2nd


Then sign bertuzzi, swayman and orlov.


You basically cover your bases with FA signings besides top six winger(depending what side Debrusk plays) While getting back newhook, 1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd and some prospects. All while freeing up cap space.

One can dream.
 

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Agreed.Orlov is going to want a big money big term deal since this will be his last big pay day. He's in that grey area age wise where I don't like handing them big contracts.

2 guys I'd look at would be Graves and Soucey, not as talented as Orlov but are younger, big bodies that can play in the top 4 and will be cheaper. Of course salary will have to be moved out to bring in any UFAs but I think finding someone to play in that top 4 has to be a priority.

Also with Bertuzzi I don't keep him over Hall. I'd love to add him and keep Hall but I'm not moving one to keep the other which sadly I don't think is possible cap wise.
I'd love Graves. I like Soucy as well. Graves is probably too expensive for us. I would trade Hall to sign Bertuzzi. Younger, likely cheaper, and brings a much needed skillset to the team.
 
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RNH for Swayman + Gryz

Hall-RNH-Pasta
Marchy-Bergy-Debrusk

That's a filthy top 6, Hall and RNH would have some chemistry from their Oiler days.
 

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I was all aboard the trade ullmark train but I’m starting to wonder if it does make more sense to trade Swayman for a young 1c potential and picks this draft kind of return
 

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RNH for Swayman + Gryz

Hall-RNH-Pasta
Marchy-Bergy-Debrusk

That's a filthy top 6, Hall and RNH would have some chemistry from their Oiler days.
RNH is an interesting name. I didn’t watch a lot of him this season but sounds like he’d improve the power play. I think Zacha needs to play center next year so if Bergeron comes back they should trade Coyle.
 

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Would Swayman for Dubois work? This would free up a trade of Hellebuyck for the Jets while they stay strong in goal with Swayman. I don't know, just throwing it out there. Dubois has put the Jets in a very tough spot demanding a trade giving them very little leverage.

Not sure of the cap hit/numbers

Bertuzzi-Dubois-Pastrnak
Marchand-Bergeron-Debrusk
Merkulov-Zacha-Frederic
Lauko-Beecher-Hathaway/Steen

Lindholm-Mcavoy
Grzelcyk-Carlo
Zboril-veteran Dman (1-1.5 million dollars)

Ullmark
Bussi

Trades of Hall, Swayman, Coyle, Forbort. (Reilly buyout)
 
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Would Swayman for Dubois work? This would free up a trade of Hellebuyck for the Jets while they stay strong in goal with Swayman. I don't know, just throwing it out there. Dubois has put the Jets in a very tough spot demanding a trade giving them very little leverage.
I would love to pull off a deal just to piss the Habs off. It seems like a forgone conclusion he will end up there.
 
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I would love to pull off a deal just to piss the Habs off. It seems like a forgone conclusion he will end up there.
Looks like the jets are going to have a busy off season and with PLD wanting to be a Hab and the Jets more than likely wanting a younger Center back, odds are the Bruins will be left out in the cold on this one, but imo he should be without question Sweeneys number one target this off season.
Dubois isn’t likely to be the only guy on the move.

Chances are high that all of goalie Connor Hellebuyck, centre Mark Scheifele and captain Blake Wheeler could be gone.

That list could extend to fellow 2024 pending UFAs Brenden Dillon, Dylan DeMelo and maybe even Nino Niederreiter — though all three of those players are candidates for an extension
 
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I'd love Graves. I like Soucy as well. Graves is probably too expensive for us. I would trade Hall to sign Bertuzzi. Younger, likely cheaper, and brings a much needed skillset to the team.
I like the player no doubt I just think it's redundant to trade one for the other. Hall is the more skilled of the two and if he comes back next season like he was in the playoffs I want him.

I somewhat doubt Bertuzzi will be cheaper. He's going to want big term and his injury history scares the hell out of me. His style of game doesn't age well and the bulk of that contract will be in his over 30 years. I'd just ride it out with Hall for another year atleast get through the cap mess of next season and see what's available the following year with no overages and likely higher salary cap.
 
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Looks like the jets are going to have a busy off season and with PLD wanting to be a Hab and the Jets more than likely wanting a younger Center back, odds are the Bruins will be left out in the cold on this one, but imo he should be without question Sweeneys number one target this off season.
Dubois isn’t likely to be the only guy on the move.

Chances are high that all of goalie Connor Hellebuyck, centre Mark Scheifele and captain Blake Wheeler could be gone.

That list could extend to fellow 2024 pending UFAs Brenden Dillon, Dylan DeMelo and maybe even Nino Niederreiter — though all three of those players are candidates for an extension
if they trade hellybuck theyll need a goalie they can control. Id be fine using schiefele as a interim option given the strong room we have

would DeMelo actually be avail??? hmm lots of options
something around Reilly/Gryz/Swayman for Scheifele and DeMelo? Frederic too?


Im thinking people with no trade protection to make it easier.
 

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I like the player no doubt I just think it's redundant to trade one for the other. Hall is the more skilled of the two and if he comes back next season like he was in the playoffs I want him.

I somewhat doubt Bertuzzi will be cheaper. He's going to want big term and his injury history scares the hell out of me. His style of game doesn't age well and the bulk of that contract will be in his over 30 years. I'd just ride it out with Hall for another year atleast get through the cap mess of next season and see what's available the following year with no overages and likely higher salary cap.

Yup not sure Betuzzi will be cheaper, but I am sure signing him will require committing to him for a minimum of 6 years, and I am not at all comfortable with that. I don't see his game aging well
 
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