Player Discussion Brock Boeser | "Back" in Action

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valkynax

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Horvat can still take him...

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Oh god no...

If Horvat gets this car he'd lose sooooo much street cred.
 

Riseonfire

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Hi guys, just coming to say I <3 Boeser.

We'll give you they keys to the Barclay Center for him. It's totally a good deal, ya'll should think on it.
 
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HIWATT

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Yeah, but after taxes, man it's closer to just 300k - plus he'll have to pay US tax on the value of the Honda he won. Just a lot of tax bills for Boss. I feel for him.


Aside from the bonuses in his contract, everything he won at the All Star game will have much less tax incurred than if he won it in Canada.
He's a US citizen remember, and the event was held in the US.
They don't have the taxes people in Canada do, because the US isn't (yet) quite as far along in it's quest to become a communist stronghold.
 

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Think we can all say the same for Barzal. He’s been so dynamic this year it’s amazing. His speed is top tier.


Haha I remember after Boston botched their three 1st rounders that year and didn't draft Barzal, I wanted the Canucks to trade up and draft him so badly. On one hand, it would have been amazing to get Barzal. But, not having Boeser would hurt pretty bad too.
 

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Aside from the bonuses in his contract, everything he won at the All Star game will have much less tax incurred than if he won it in Canada.
He's a US citizen remember, and the event was held in the US.
They don't have the taxes people in Canada do, because the US isn't (yet) quite as far along in it's quest to become a communist stronghold.
Brock Boeser earns income in Canada and will be filing Canadian income taxes. (He is also a "U.S. person" under U.S. tax law, and will thus have to file in the U.S. too.) He is in the privileged position of being able to hire an accountant to worry about all the various overlaps and inconsistencies between the two regimes.
 
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Aside from the bonuses in his contract, everything he won at the All Star game will have much less tax incurred than if he won it in Canada.
He's a US citizen remember, and the event was held in the US.
They don't have the taxes people in Canada do, because the US isn't (yet) quite as far along in it's quest to become a communist stronghold.

Minnesota has a higher marginal personal tax rate than BC does.

Not to mention non-salary bonuses are taxed at only 15% for American athletes working in Canada, so it'd actually be to his benefit to have the income occur in Canada rather than the US.
 

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https://forvo.com/word/boeser/ In neither Dutch (where the majority of the origins name are) or German is it pronounced 'Bess-er' it's Boo-ser.


I clicked on that link for poops and snickers and afterwards I saw a clip for Brock on After Hours.

I don't know how or why I missed this before, and it's probably not anything new to most of you, but I just watched it and felt compelled to post it... although it very well may have already been posted in this thread somewhere..... regardless, it deserves another look.....



What an absolutely amazing specimen. The Hockey Gods would never allow such a special hockey player/person to end his career without a cup..... hopefully it's with us.
 
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serge2k

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Think we can all say the same for Barzal. He’s been so dynamic this year it’s amazing. His speed is top tier.
Nope, hate him.
Haha I remember after Boston botched their three 1st rounders that year and didn't draft Barzal, I wanted the Canucks to trade up and draft him so badly. On one hand, it would have been amazing to get Barzal. But, not having Boeser would hurt pretty bad too.

It upsets me I have to hate him for forever.

Oh well, Boeser is better.
 

PG Canuck

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Sorry but I think Barzal is definitely better. Barzal drives plays and drives his line. Boeser has show he can do that a bit but Barzal is elite and makes every player around him elite. He helped Brock f***ing Nelson get a hattrick singlehandedly.

Brock easily has a better shot and underrated vision but I don’t know. Barzal’s speed alone generates 40 points lol
 

DownGoesMcDavid

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Any word on the severity of hand injury ? How long is he out for ?

Is it same hand he has had surgery on?

I have noticed that brock has been taking slappers more lately rather than wristers...
 

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Sorry but I think Barzal is definitely better. Barzal drives plays and drives his line. Boeser has show he can do that a bit but Barzal is elite and makes every player around him elite. He helped Brock ****ing Nelson get a hattrick singlehandedly.

Brock easily has a better shot and underrated vision but I don’t know. Barzal’s speed alone generates 40 points lol

Barzal is probably winning the Calder at this point.

But the "drives plays and drives his line" point is the age old argument of scorer vs playmaker. Adam Oates drove plays and drove his lines. That didn't mean he was better than Brett Hull. Boeser is a sniper. What you want is to provide him with a C who can give him the puck when he's in the position to score but he can probably score with any player.

It's like Mogilny in his prime. Give him nobody to play with and he's a 30+ goal scorer. Give him a playmaking C and he scores 50+.
 
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Slapshot_11

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Any word on the severity of hand injury ? How long is he out for ?

Is it same hand he has had surgery on?

I have noticed that brock has been taking slappers more lately rather than wristers...
Green said it was same hand but different area/injury
 

vadim sharifijanov

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Honestly if you aren't comfortable calling another man handsome, you're the one with the problem.

what’s funny is even 12 year olds don’t say crap like that anymore, because the world is changing. now it’s only stunted 12 year old bros in their 20s who are the last of their kind.

ftr, the wife said to me when she first saw him, “who’s the hunk?”
 

Melvin

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Barzal is probably winning the Calder at this point.

But the "drives plays and drives his line" point is the age old argument of scorer vs playmaker. Adam Oates drove plays and drove his lines. That didn't mean he was better than Brett Hull. Boeser is a sniper. What you want is to provide him with a C who can give him the puck when he's in the position to score but he can probably score with any player.

It's like Mogilny in his prime. Give him nobody to play with and he's a 30+ goal scorer. Give him a playmaking C and he scores 50+.

I think that Boeser drives the play plenty.
 

Hodgy

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Honestly, I think that people are unfairly just looking at points in determining that Barzal is the better player and that he should win rookie of the year. The Islanders are a powerhouse offensively and Barzal gets to play with some excellent offensive players. Barzal isn't the best offensive player on his team while Boeser easily is on the Canucks. Importantly, Boeser has been in on 36% of the Canucks goals while Barzal has only been in on 30% of the Islanders goals. Moreover, Barzal has played 4 more games than Boeser has with his respective team. This, coupled with the fact that Boeser has 10 more goals than Barzal, leads me to think that the Calder race is far closer than some think.
 

Melvin

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Honestly, I think that people are unfairly just looking at points in determining that Barzal is the better player and that he should win rookie of the year. The Islanders are a powerhouse offensively and Barzal gets to play with some excellent offensive players. Barzal isn't the best offensive player on his team while Boeser easily is on the Canucks. Importantly, Boeser has been in on 36% of the Canucks goals while Barzal has only been in on 30% of the Islanders goals. Moreover, Barzal has played 4 more games than Boeser has with his respective team. This, coupled with the fact that Boeser has 10 more goals than Barzal, leads me to think that the Calder race is far closer than some think.

It's closer in terms of objective comparison, for all the reasons you mentioned. But in terms of the actual race, none of this matters. The voters are not going to care about this stuff; the race is pretty much over barring a massive surge/collapse.

Johnny Canucker was right. Johnny Canucker is always right.
 

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Honestly, I think that people are unfairly just looking at points in determining that Barzal is the better player and that he should win rookie of the year. The Islanders are a powerhouse offensively and Barzal gets to play with some excellent offensive players. Barzal isn't the best offensive player on his team while Boeser easily is on the Canucks. Importantly, Boeser has been in on 36% of the Canucks goals while Barzal has only been in on 30% of the Islanders goals. Moreover, Barzal has played 4 more games than Boeser has with his respective team. This, coupled with the fact that Boeser has 10 more goals than Barzal, leads me to think that the Calder race is far closer than some think.

I don’t think much of that goes through the voters minds. They look at points, maybe a few highlights, and that’s who they vote for.

The only people who dissect the numbers to the degree you do above are Canucks fans looking for a reason for their guy to win.
 

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Honestly, I think that people are unfairly just looking at points in determining that Barzal is the better player and that he should win rookie of the year. The Islanders are a powerhouse offensively and Barzal gets to play with some excellent offensive players. Barzal isn't the best offensive player on his team while Boeser easily is on the Canucks. Importantly, Boeser has been in on 36% of the Canucks goals while Barzal has only been in on 30% of the Islanders goals. Moreover, Barzal has played 4 more games than Boeser has with his respective team. This, coupled with the fact that Boeser has 10 more goals than Barzal, leads me to think that the Calder race is far closer than some think.
meh, a good chunk of the voters back east aren't going to bother staying up late at night to watch a lottery pick team like the Canucks (ie., they likely are only catching Boeser the odd time when the Canucks are on a road trip). Race won't be close.
 
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