Proposal: Bring Seth Jones home
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This was my first thought as well.
My second thought was how everyone is going to jump on jones who really isn't as bad as people think.
That being said Jones didn't turn out to be the top notch NHLer that I thought he would be either.
The biggest problem with this trade is that the Blacks Hawks top 2 young defenders are defenders are LHD and the solution for Dallas is part of the problem for Chicago but I like Bourque and Lindell is very good too but might be for only 1 year but could fetch a 1st rounder next deadline.
He’s still acting as a representative on this thread and should be prepared to face backlash
Bourque is also a quality prospect who I think will make an excellent NHL winger.
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As a neutral fan, I like the premise but I think a 1st round pick should go in Chicago's direction, for the retention
The basis is good tho
The basis is good tho
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Didn't saw it lol
I'd do it if I were Chicago then, as a neutral fan
I value Cap Space quite a lot, and Chicago could weaponize this 7.5M for years to come
They could also try to sell Dadonov and Lindell for extra picks
The retention for 6 years would suck but that's not a whole lot, plus, most of those years are going to be during their rebuild
While I think Jones is better than the current perception that many have, with his salary and term, he's a gamble that I wouldn't be willing take. I fully acknowledge that he could be a massive steal for whomever acquires him, but I also believe the actual price to acquire him would be lower than the initial proposal, even with retention.
Stars just dodged the John Klingberg bullet and the jump on a Seth Jones grenade?
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Seth Jones is overpaid, but he's not a bad player by any stretch. Top pair RHDs that can eat 25+ mins/night certainly don't grow on trees. I thought he should have been the Leafs' #1 target for years.
There are certainly benefits to the Hawks moving him, but they won't have cap issues for years and they would create a massive hole by doing so. With Bedard, their competition window will ramp up quickly and will be looking to get better, not worse sooner than later. Plus I can't see any team retaining on salary for more than 2 years.
Bourque is nice, but the Hawks are already starting to have a nice cupboard, especially with forwards. They probably want to add more quality NHL talent as soon as next season.
There are certainly benefits to the Hawks moving him, but they won't have cap issues for years and they would create a massive hole by doing so. With Bedard, their competition window will ramp up quickly and will be looking to get better, not worse sooner than later. Plus I can't see any team retaining on salary for more than 2 years.
Bourque is nice, but the Hawks are already starting to have a nice cupboard, especially with forwards. They probably want to add more quality NHL talent as soon as next season.
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Just to play Devil's advocate on the price - the 1st round DP is probably about 25th OA, and the Hawks are retaining a total of $12M over the next 6 years. Don't know enough on Borque to estimate his value, but it would have to be pretty high for the deal to work from the Hawks perspective with the retention.
And on Jones - at $7.5M I think he'd be a great value for the Stars and fit in really nicely behind Heiskenen on the blueline.
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He can't force his way past the likes of Ty Dellandrea or Craig Smith on the depth chart? Mavrik Bourque is a good prospect. Literally every team has a Mavrik Bourque.
Brandon Pirri won the AHL scoring title at 21/22 for the Blackhawks. He amounted to nothing in the NHL.
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Not as cool as claiming Bourque is a league-wide top prospect, but yeah still pretty cool I guess thanks.
Don't think anybody's doing Chicago the favor of giving them multiple assets for Jones, even with $2M retained.
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All you're doing is repeatedly showing you have no idea how the Stars organization works.
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