Sportsnet: Brian Burke- “It’s time for William Nylander to move”

[Canucks LB]

Tell me more about the team that you know nothing about

you want to trade one of your best defenseman’s for a centre who literally struggles in the most important time of the year.

A guy who is highly respected around the league, and a true leader for the Minnesota wild

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

They absolutely do not lmao

Dumba has a ton of value, the guy won’t be traded for a guy like Nylander who continues to ghost in the playoffs.

not to mention, dumba is a massive character and leader, the wild need him

Good point. Nylander + two 1st rounders then.

 

[Mickey Marner]

Actually, it was time during his holdout. Now it's overdue.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

you want to trade one of your best defenseman’s for a centre who literally struggles in the most important time of the year.

A guy who is highly respected around the league, and a true leader for the Minnesota wild

He can come back in 2 years if he wants to.

 

[2Pair]

you want to trade one of your best defenseman’s for a centre who literally struggles in the most important time of the year

It's useless to have one of the best D cores in the NHL if it means playing Alex Galchenyuk as your 2C. I want my team to find a better balance. If Nylander is available, then that's a conversation that Minnesota has to have.

 

[Canucks LB]

It's useless to have one of the best D cores in the NHL if it means playing Alex Galchenyuk as your 2C. I want my team to find a better balance. If Nylander is available, then that's a conversation that Minnesota has to have.

Start the conversation with another player, William Nylander is not the centre you’re looking for.

Don’t get me wrong buddy, trading dumba, Makes a bit of sense if you get a real Good center, Nylander is a good center, but he’s a regular season guy.

Dumba Goes to war literally every time I see him play, you win cups with players like him

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Carolina says hi

Unless the Leafs are selling him for parts, which is very unlikely, they won’t be saying hi.

Take Slavin off their hands lol.

Just kidding but they could get Pesce for him though.

Pesce is more valuable to Carolina than Nylander would be. Folks are going overboard extrapolating the performance of the defense without him against a Rangers’ squad with underwhelming depth. There’s uncertainty with Hamilton, too. There was a time for that trade, but it has passed, imo.

 

[57special]

Probably best to revisit a MN/TOR trade after tomorrow night. I don't think that they want to trade Brodin, and while they might consider trading Dumba, I'm not sure that he is what TOR needs. I mean, he's a more physical guy than Barrie, and better defensively, but he is still of an offensive/PP type guy, not a defensive stopper.

I'm also not sure how much MN wants Nylander. His C play is not convincing, and the whole entitlement thing seems to cling to him...it won't wash in MN.

 

[Super Hans]

 

[Legion34]

Manson + Rakell for nylander as a base.


Rakell is pretty similar production for half the price, and Manson should be an ideal partner for rielly... I suppose if they wanted the cap space and a power forward something around Manson + comtois Could be worked

I actually thought of that myself. I Think I would do it......

 

[Arizonan God]

Marner has a higher cap hit and will fetch you a better return. If you are trading one of the wingers, it should be Marner.

 

[Canucks LB]

There are a few problems with the theory of trading Nylander.

Let's start with the positives.

Nylander is immensely gifted with offensive capabilities, across the board.
His skating is shifty and has solid speed as well.
He is coming off a very good year in Toronto.

Lets talk about the negatives.

Nylander simply has had countless opportunities to shine in the playoffs, and continues to disappear.
I would not say he has been "Bad" I think "Fine" is more fair, but the issue is when teams get bigger and stronger, he struggles.
Nylander's contract while decent, A good playoff performance would make it extremely worth it.
And the biggest problem with trading him: Marner and Matthews simply as better players and would be worth significantly more.
Nylander would not get the leafs a #1 Defender, while Marner might, and Matthews absolutely would.

 

[Grub]

A player like Chris Tanev would have helped the Leafs. There was talks for a Nylander anf Tanev swap in the past. I think Tanev would have made that Leafs blueline solid. I’m glad Tanev is still with us as our #2.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

you want to trade one of your best defenseman’s for a centre who literally struggles in the most important time of the year.

A guy who is highly respected around the league, and a true leader for the Minnesota wild

He would be the second best forward in the team and it would be a move from a position we’re capable of replacing. If he could workout at C that’s just a bonus.

 

[Merrrlin]

Carolina says hi

Let’s not go down this path again please...

I’d personally like to keep Nylander and try to groom him into a C. I really liked Tavares on the wing.

That means Marner is the guy I’d look to move.

 

[Merrrlin]

Manson + Rakell for nylander as a base.


Rakell is pretty similar production for half the price, and Manson should be an ideal partner for rielly... I suppose if they wanted the cap space and a power forward something around Manson + comtois Could be worked

Manson Rakell is a great return in any Nylander deal, so as long as the plus didn’t strip us bare, I’d be all over that.

 

[KaprizovEntitlelist]

He would be the second best forward in the team and it would be a move from a position we’re capable of replacing. If he could workout at C that’s just a bonus.

Wild are absolutely not trading Brodin or Dumba for wingers, no chance.

One of the big reasons Zucker was moved was to make room in top 4 f for Kaprizov.

Unless Zuccarello, Or Parise gets moved, there is zero chance

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

William Nylander and Morgan Rilly to Minny for Ryan Suter.

 

[Canucks LB]

A player like Chris Tanev would have helped the Leafs. There was talks for a Nylander anf Tanev swap in the past. I think Tanev would have made that Leafs blueline solid. I’m glad Tanev is still with us as our #2.

Tanev would have honestly cost a 2nd rounder at the time, coming off a ton of injuries.
It's been amazing he has been healthy this entire season, which has been a huge part of vancouver.

Don't think Nylander would ever be involved in a tanev deal

 

[Canucks LB]

William Nylander and Morgan Rilly to Minny for Ryan Suter.

You just made the leafs worse.

 

[Merrrlin]

There are a few problems with the theory of trading Nylander.

Let's start with the positives.

Nylander is immensely gifted with offensive capabilities, across the board.
His skating is shifty and has solid speed as well.
He is coming off a very good year in Toronto.

Lets talk about the negatives.

Nylander simply has had countless opportunities to shine in the playoffs, and continues to disappear.
I would not say he has been "Bad" I think "Fine" is more fair, but the issue is when teams get bigger and stronger, he struggles.
Nylander's contract while decent, A good playoff performance would make it extremely worth it.
And the biggest problem with trading him: Marner and Matthews simply as better players and would be worth significantly more.
Nylander would not get the leafs a #1 Defender, while Marner might, and Matthews absolutely would.

Don’t need to shoot for the moon - Toronto needs to add high quality depth. They need more Muzzins and Hymans. Matthews isn’t going anywhere until he potentially Walsh at the end of his deal.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Wild are absolutely not trading Brodin or Dumba for wingers, no chance.

One of the big reasons Zucker was moved was to make room in top 4 f for Kaprizov.

Unless Zuccarello, Or Parise gets moved, there is zero chance

We wouldn’t acquire him to play him in the wing. The decision of if he can play the center ice position is one that Guerin and his staff will have to make internally, but I wouldn’t make any snap judgements off tonight. I’ve seen him play better through the middle.

 

[Canucks LB]

Don’t need to shoot for the moon - Toronto needs to add high quality depth. They need more Muzzins and Hymans. Matthews isn’t going anywhere until he potentially Walsh at the end of his deal.

This is a great post, agree 100%.

Improve the depth first, getting a #1 D is near impossible.

 

[Canucks LB]

Let's say hypothetically the leafs decide to trade a guy like Marner.
Which Young #1 Defender would be potentially involved in a deal for him?

 

[Merrrlin]

Let's say hypothetically the leafs decide to trade a guy like Marner.
Which Young #1 Defender would be potentially involved in a deal for him?

I have no idea but someone would be getting an incredible player. 94 points at age 20.

Problem is, you need to surround him with big boys, much like Johnny Hockey out in Calgary.

I want to see the Leafs move him, but it’s 100% given that they will lose the deal long term. Unfortunately he priced himself out of the team.