Waived: Breaking: Hearing Rangers have waived Diaz, Megna.

[Raspewtin]

Well, the people that incessantly complain about him cant seem to grasp that there is a human element involved here, and it does play a role.

My personal opinion is thats not enough to keep him on the team, but at least I can acknowledge I understand why he'd be kept. If you've been on a team before, maybe you understand. If you stare at charts all day, probably not.

Stupid stats nerds and their inability to understand **** logic. Awful. What morons.

 

[Beacon]

Diaz who?

This.

He's off the team. He won't even be in Hartford, so there should be more talk of Sam Noreau and Troy Donnay than Diaz.

 

[Thirty One]

I don't have the numbers any more but I remember the Rangers Win% and possession numbers were better without Glass in the lineup. Of course the sample size wasn't big, 16 games.

With Glass: 41-19-6 (109 Pt Pace)
Without Glass: 12-3-1 (128 Pt Pace)

Obviously it's not statistically significant, but I can't imagine what the claim that he didn't hurt their W-L record would otherwise be based on. Strong teams couldn't be stronger teams if they improved obvious holes?

 

[blueshirtbolt]

According to some Swiss sources:

Diaz wouldn't report to Hartford and look for a new team in Europe (Switzerland, KHL, SHL)

Sabres probably claim him

 

[Jxmarts]

With Glass: 41-19-6 (109 Pt Pace)
Without Glass: 12-3-1 (128 Pt Pace)

Obviously it's not statistically significant, but I can't imagine what the claim that he didn't hurt their W-L record would otherwise be based on. Strong teams couldn't be stronger teams if they improved obvious holes?

Possible explanation... Glass likely sits out against teams without grit/size because he isn't needed. Ranger physical mediocrity cannot be exploited by such teams, and Rangers flourish.

I seriously doubt the Rangers would've had 128 points solely by virtue of replacing Glass with a different 12th forward in the lineup.

 

[Inferno]

Possible explanation... Glass likely sits out against teams without grit/size because he isn't needed. Ranger physical mediocrity cannot be exploited by such teams, and Rangers flourish.

I seriously doubt the Rangers would've had 128 points solely by virtue of replacing Glass with a different 12th forward in the lineup.

Depends on the forward...Sidney Crosby would look pretty good on the fourth line.

 

[Jxmarts]

Depends on the forward...Sidney Crosby would look pretty good on the fourth line.

It's funny... I had the same thought just after I posted.

 

[egelband]

Diaz would be wise to go to Hartford and wait for a trade or injury. The 8th D quite often gets a chance to impress. Just not immediately.
Anyhow, for his sake, Im glad there are leagues in Europe. If he were a baseball or football player he wouldnt have the options.

 

[nyr2k2]

Diaz would be wise to go to Hartford and wait for a trade or injury. The 8th D quite often gets a chance to impress. Just not immediately.
Anyhow, for his sake, Im glad there are leagues in Europe. If he were a baseball or football player he wouldnt have the options.

The Nippon Pro League, Japan's top baseball league, is actually a legitimate option for "4A"-type baseball players. They pay very well for American imports. But otherwise, yeah, I agree with you.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

We would know by noon today if the cleared correct?

 

[DanielBrassard]

With Glass: 41-19-6 (109 Pt Pace)
Without Glass: 12-3-1 (128 Pt Pace)

Obviously it's not statistically significant, but I can't imagine what the claim that he didn't hurt their W-L record would otherwise be based on. Strong teams couldn't be stronger teams if they improved obvious holes?

Exactly. It's a silly argument. So because the Rangers Win the presidents trophy means they couldn't have been even better? And the fact is Wins and Losses aren't the only measures of how a team played. That's where the real improvement would be. How the team actually performed

 

[Kakko]

Possible explanation... Glass likely sits out against teams without grit/size because he isn't needed. Ranger physical mediocrity cannot be exploited by such teams, and Rangers flourish.

I seriously doubt the Rangers would've had 128 points solely by virtue of replacing Glass with a different 12th forward in the lineup.

Actual explanation: he was injured, and that stretch was one of the Rangers' best of the season

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Not a good look if the team loses Diaz to waivers to keep Glass as 14th F

 

[CupWindow]

Not a good look if the team loses Diaz to waivers to keep Glass as 14th F

I don't like Glass as much as the next guy

But this was an important fight in this series.

 

[DanielBrassard]

I don't like Glass as much as the next guy

But this was an important fight.

Spurred the Rangers on to a forgettable loss.

 

[CupWindow]

Spurred the Rangers on to a forgettable loss.

Things that happen in the midst of a game don't just impact that given game. They impact the whole series.

Not defending Glass, but that was a good fight for us to win.

Knocking any player on the opposition to the locker room is always a benefit for our team.

 

[Tawnos]

You can't prove it so I don't know why you're bringing it up.

I don't need more proof than how he affects his teammates and how we still win.

 

[CupWindow]

I think one of Glass or McIlrath needs to play every night.

Even though the NHL is moving away from fighting.

You need to have one guy that is comfortable dropping the gloves

Otherwise teams can expose you

I think

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Everyone cleared waivers.

 

[chrisp200]

Just saying what I was told. But Pitt would like Glass back and might claim him if waived.

No, we wouldn't.

 

[PlamsUnlimited]

Well, the people that incessantly complain about him cant seem to grasp that there is a human element involved here, and it does play a role.

My personal opinion is thats not enough to keep him on the team, but at least I can acknowledge I understand why he'd be kept. If you've been on a team before, maybe you understand. If you stare at charts all day, probably not.

We had a guy like glass in my league. He sucked. All he did was drop gloves against other goons, and only win maybe 40% of the time and cause my line to go offsides 75% of the times we had a rush.

 

[Thirty One]

Possible explanation... Glass likely sits out against teams without grit/size because he isn't needed. Ranger physical mediocrity cannot be exploited by such teams, and Rangers flourish.

I seriously doubt the Rangers would've had 128 points solely by virtue of replacing Glass with a different 12th forward in the lineup.

Interesting theory.

Here's some of the personnel the Rangers were up against in those 16 games sans Glass:

Shawn Thornton, Dan Carcillo, Chris Neil, Zack Sill, Steve Downie, Cal Clutterbuck, Matt Martin, Andrew Desjardins, Kyle Clifford, Patrick Maroon, Clayton Stoner, Nicolas Deslauriers, Patrick Kaleta, Cody McCormick, Derek Dorsett, Radko Gudas, Zac Rinaldo (x2), Wayne Simmonds (x2)

I think one of Glass or McIlrath needs to play every night.

Even though the NHL is moving away from fighting.

You need to have one guy that is comfortable dropping the gloves

Otherwise teams can expose you

I think

Can you cite any times the Rangers were exposed without Glass last season?

 

[PlamsUnlimited]

We weren't weighed down so they couldn't catch us

 

[Thirty One]

You must be a soft guy, never been in a fight.

Don't even try to unjustify physical players. Last example was this preseason, Hank was attacked. But it wont happen a lot, because with guys like Dylan and Tanner we'll return the favor.

They definitely protect our star players. Can you imagine a season without Hank? We would be toast.

Didn't McIlrath or Glass play in every pre-season game? If Hank was repeatedly attacked, what does that say about their presence?

 

[blue2noise]

I know I've been gone a while, but when did Rafael Diaz turn into Nick Lidstrom?

He's a marginal player at best and is soft in his own zone. We can't get pummeled again like we did vs Washington. Mac was the right choice on so many levels.