Appleyard
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The past has shown he'll be terrible for about 20 games soon. We shall see.
Apart from 11-12... he was only bad for the first ten that year and beastly for the rest! Fingers crossed.
The past has shown he'll be terrible for about 20 games soon. We shall see.
Last year the organization wanted Coburn to take the next step and be that number 1 guy. He didn't do it and we now need to accept what he is which is a very good complementary D man who eats minutes and is generally healthy like Carle was.
You're being a comedian here, right? Because Coburn is not a good complementary defenseman. He's a mediocre defenseman who is doing his usual routine of stinking up the joint early, getting progressively better, take a turn for the worse and then it tear it up down the stretch. He's done this EVERY year since being in Philadelphia. With that being said, I'm glad to see more and more people are getting fed up with him and want to see him sent packing. Coburn offers nothing more than what Grossmann and Schenn already bring to the table. Coburn's third period collapse against the Ducks should re-affirm that.
Nope. I know you are not his biggest fan and are one of the people on here that typically give him lots o crap. I just think the criticism is a bit much.
I'm curious though..nobody seems to suggest how the Flyers would fill his minutes? I'm not necessarily against moving him but it has to make sense. I'm just seeing a lot of hate and comments like he is stupid etc....
It is true, the only way his minutes get eaten (and there is the possibility we don't suffer) if he is traded (with no instant D return) is if Schenn is given the minutes he was last year and plays like he did (22ish) and Gus and Grossmann get an extra one or two compared to last year/stay as they have so far this year.
Kimmo-Schenn (Kimmo 21mins, Schenn 22)
Grossmann-Gus (Grossmann 19, Gus 19)
Streit-Mez (Streit 21mins, Mez 18)
I could put up with that if Kimmo was playing like last year and Gus keeps up his good play. 'On paper' those players can play those minutes... but Kimmo is the big concern for me in that regard based off this year so far, this would put a lot on him.
But Mez every night (unless he can get back a semblance of his former self) and a current Kimmo is scary. Plus the PK defence loses a big part of it.
Nope. I know you are not his biggest fan and are one of the people on here that typically give him lots o crap. I just think the criticism is a bit much.
I'm curious though..nobody seems to suggest how the Flyers would fill his minutes? I'm not necessarily against moving him but it has to make sense. I'm just seeing a lot of hate and comments like he is stupid etc....
It is true, the only way his minutes get eaten (and there is the possibility we don't suffer) if he is traded (with no instant D return) is if Schenn is given the minutes he was last year and plays like he did (22ish) and Gus and Grossmann get an extra one or two compared to last year/stay as they have so far this year.
Kimmo-Schenn (Kimmo 21mins, Schenn 22)
Grossmann-Gus (Grossmann 19, Gus 19)
Streit-Mez (Streit 21mins, Mez 18)
I could put up with that if Kimmo was playing like last year and Gus keeps up his good play. 'On paper' those players can play those minutes... but Kimmo is the big concern for me in that regard based off this year so far, this would put a lot on him.
But Mez every night (unless he can get back a semblance of his former self) and a current Kimmo is scary. Plus the PK defence loses a big part of it.
And who will be playing 20+ minutes per night? Oh right..we can do it by a committee of 3 cusp NHL D men which will increase the boneheadedness 3 fold....
This is what I want to know? People didn't like Carle and wanted him off the team and considered it addition by subtraction. The same is being leveled at Coburn b/c he can't be Pronger apparently.
If he is traded...Flyers better get a D man that can eat minutes. Coburn has his faults like Carle but let's not act like he is Jeff Cychrun out there...
Those times look scary. Timonen, Schenn, streit and Mez are all out way to much there. That would be total chaos