Player Discussion: Brayden Point

[Todd1a]

What will his contract look like ? We going 8 years ?

 

[Rschmitz]

What will his contract look like ? We going 8 years ?

Only thing we know is what JBB said. They are early in discussions and that he isn't concerned

 

[The Gongshow]

I'm not opposed to either a bridge or long term tbh.

 

[Todd1a]

Only thing we know is what JBB said. They are early in discussions and that he isn't concerned

You don’t think they get it done before July 1st ? So we know cap space in free agency we have left

 

[DistantThunderRep]

He'll sign either tomorrow or Tuesday.

 

[Rschmitz]

You don’t think they get it done before July 1st ? So we know cap space in free agency we have left

I think they announce a bunch of extensions at once

 

[OurlordAndSaviorKuch]

8 years please

 

[DFC]

I'd like to just go ahead and lock him up, I think, if I had to choose. I think it'll pay off, so long as the cap rises.

 

[DistantThunderRep]

I'd like to just go ahead and lock him up, I think, if I had to choose. I think it'll pay off, so long as the cap rises.

Point will sign 7.5 for 8 years. Book it.

 

[Todd1a]

Point will sign 7.5 for 8 years. Book it.

I’m saying 9.0 avv for 8 years

 

[TeslaCoilFan]

Point will sign 7.5 for 8 years. Book it.

I’m saying 9.0 avv for 8 years

Time to split the difference.

Predicting 8.25 AAV for 8 years.

 

[Byrddog]

would love to see 7 or 8 but it will be 8.5 to 9. And then we will need to get ready for the max when Kuch comes up again. The Hayes contract is gonna hurt us from a cap stand point no way Point will get less than 8.5

 

[DFC]

Point will sign 7.5 for 8 years. Book it.

I'd be shocked if he signs that low on anything but a bridge deal. Happily shocked though.

 

[Rschmitz]

I think he signs for less than 8M AAV

 

[DistantThunderRep]

I’m saying 9.0 avv for 8 years

I'd be shocked if he signs that low on anything but a bridge deal. Happily shocked though.

Time to split the difference.

Predicting 8.25 AAV for 8 years.

I said Book It. So book it damn it.

 

[Felonious Python]

would love to see 7 or 8 but it will be 8.5 to 9. And then we will need to get ready for the max when Kuch comes up again. The Hayes contract is gonna hurt us from a cap stand point no way Point will get less than 8.5

Maybe not if the player (and possibly not the agent) takes into account that everyone online thought he got overpaid (and that will follow him around for years, making him quick to get criticism).

Point also probably thinks that the team is better with Vasi, Serg, Cirelli, and Cernak. All guys who are going to get bigger deals a year from now (likely also without a huge bump in the cap).

 

[Pyrophorus]

Better than Marner-why not $12m

 

[JoVel]

Better than Marner-why not $12m

Because our management isn't dumb.

 

[Byrddog]

Maybe not if the player (and possibly not the agent) takes into account that everyone online thought he got overpaid (and that will follow him around for years, making him quick to get criticism).

Point also probably thinks that the team is better with Vasi, Serg, Cirelli, and Cernak. All guys who are going to get bigger deals a year from now (likely also without a huge bump in the cap).

Vasi's deal is concerning he is gonna get paid in term and $$$$$$$ the other three can be controlled a little with a bridge. Point is different you can not bridge a 40 goal guy. You bridge him at 6 or 7 then in two years he will warrant 11 mil. The only exception would be that you are planning on exposing him in the expansion draft. This is a crucial contract compounded by 7 NMC ot NTC' already on the team.

 

[DaBolts]

I think he signs for less than 8M AAV

I agree. He probably goes 7 at $7 million AAV with a NTC that only he can lift. That puts him in his prime and worth $12 Million + at the end of the contract.

 

[Felonious Python]

Vasi's deal is concerning he is gonna get paid in term and $$$$$$$ the other three can be controlled a little with a bridge. Point is different you can not bridge a 40 goal guy. You bridge him at 6 or 7 then in two years he will warrant 11 mil. The only exception would be that you are planning on exposing him in the expansion draft. This is a crucial contract compounded by 7 NMC ot NTC' already on the team.

There's also a CBA negotiation looming. If I were a big-time player, I'd want term to insulate against changes. The worst case scenario is that I'm an amnesty buy-out.

On the other hand, if I thought the PA was going to rake the league over the coals during negotiations, a bridge deal might look good since I can ring the bell again with a new CBA.

 

[Todd1a]

There's also a CBA negotiation looming. If I were a big-time player, I'd want term to insulate against changes. The worst case scenario is that I'm an amnesty buy-out.

On the other hand, if I thought the PA was going to rake the league over the coals during negotiations, a bridge deal might look good since I can ring the bell again with a new CBA.

Which is why if I was him I’d do a 5 year deal gives him more money and at 28 he can hit the ufA market

 

[Byrddog]

Which is why if I was him I’d do a 5 year deal gives him more money and at 28 he can hit the ufA market

For the player maybe but for the team that's not going to work with this stagnated cap increases.

 

[TheDaysOf 04]

You don’t think they get it done before July 1st ? So we know cap space in free agency we have left

If you want something to compare it to, Stammer's first deal aka Stammergeddon #1, was signed July 19th in 2011 and Kucherov's bridge deal was signed October 11th, right before the start of the 2016-17 season. So a good guess could be anywhere in between. Both Hedman and Vasilevskiy re-signed way before their ELCs were used up.

 

[Byrddog]

I agree. He probably goes 7 at $7 million AAV with a NTC that only he can lift. That puts him in his prime and worth $12 Million + at the end of the contract.

The NTC is a deal stopper. The team already has too many remember there will be an expansion draft coming and you can not protect them all. And the NTC's must be protected. Kuch does not have one so protecting Point and exposing Kuch is not something I would even consider.