Value of: Brandon Carlo

[JoemAvs]

I'd give up a ton for Carlo..

I usually think that Byram and Newhook should be off the table for anything remotely realistic but for Carlo I might make an exception..
He probably won't break the bank longterm, is a Colorado native (maybe gives us a bit of a hometown discount) and would perfectly round out our top4 for the next decade or so...

Byram- Makar
Girard- Carlo

would probably be among the best and most well rounded top4 units out there for the next 5-10 years if Byram is not a total bust...

I'd do Newhook+ for him as long as EJ is willing to waive his NMC for the expansion draft allowing us to protect all 3 of Makar, Girard and Carlo...

But realistically Carlo is not going anywhere...

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

It makes a lot of sense for BOS, not really for VAN. Carlo as high as I am on him is a 3/4D, while Boeser is a legit 1st line sniper...

That description undersells how rare Carlo is. He's a young, shutdown RHD with team control (1 year left on his bridge + at least 2 years until UFA). There are a handful of that type of player leaguewide. If Boeser doesn't pull a Pesce/Parayko/Pulock, is the base really not workable?

 

[kthx]

I'm not necessarily trying to trade Carlo but rather trying to find his value. He is a great player but we've seen crazier trades happen in NHL.

 

[TML1967]

Without the storied history, I think Toronto is a good fit trade wise.
15th+ a few AHL $ dumps (Paul Carey=375k, Kampfer=800k) + a decent prospect (Hallander?)

 

[57special]

Boeser

Nylander

Newhook+


I would be tempted Newhook+. He should be ready in a year, and would be on a ELC for 3 years after that, giving the B's all sorts of cap flexibility.

Leafs are crazy if they don't jump on that deal, both form a hockey fit standpoint, and economically.

Van, too, but a little less so.

Boston can't make the deal, though. Chara, and possibly Krug gone if Nylander and Boeser come back with their inflated salaries? Who will play defense for them, where will they get the money?

 

[AveryStar4Eva]

Doubt Boston moves him at this point

 

[weinsink]

Leafs would start at the 15th overall. Carlo is exactly what we need IMO.

Click!

 

[BudBundy]

Wtf? Is Chiarelli back in charge in Boston?? Why would the Bs possibly trade a very effective RH D with a team-friendly contract? Especially with Krug and Chara situations looming. Sure, if someone comes in and offers a ridiculous overpay. But under normal circumstances? It would be bizarre.

 

[Meeqs]

With the possible loss of both Chara and Krug I think the last thing Bos should be doing atm is trading away more Dmen.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Without the storied history, I think Toronto is a good fit trade wise.
15th+ a few AHL $ dumps (Paul Carey=375k, Kampfer=800k) + a decent prospect (Hallander?)

I don’t see any reason for the Bruins to say no to this offer.

 

[57special]

Carlo will not be traded.

 

[The don godfather]

Carlo is the beast that's all I know. You gotta pay a pretty penny for him.

 

[Coach Parker]

It makes a lot of sense for BOS, not really for VAN. Carlo as high as I am on him is a 3/4D, while Boeser is a legit 1st line sniper...

I disagree here as he isn't even that on Vancouver. I watch them every game and he isn't a legit 1st line sniper. He didn't even crack 20 but I have him as a solid 2nd line RW.

 

[UK Canuck]

I'd offer VAN's 2021 1st + (take your pick from Virtanen, Juolevi, Demko, Di Pietro, Hoglander)

 

[RationalExpectations]

That description undersells how rare Carlo is. He's a young, shutdown RHD with team control (1 year left on his bridge + at least 2 years until UFA). There are a handful of that type of player leaguewide. If Boeser doesn't pull a Pesce/Parayko/Pulock, is the base really not workable?

Which is why I said BOS should not trade him in the first place. Because these Ds typically are worth more to their team than on the market. But in a vacuum I believe goal scorer are more valued than shutdown D so if VAN were to entertain the idea, the + would be significant

 

[easton117]

Wtf? Is Chiarelli back in charge in Boston?? Why would the Bs possibly trade a very effective RH D with a team-friendly contract? Especially with Krug and Chara situations looming. Sure, if someone comes in and offers a ridiculous overpay. But under normal circumstances? It would be bizarre.

Ya this ones a pipe dream.

Unless they went out and signed Pietrangelo long term then maybe? Don’t see that either though maybe they shake things up a lot this offseason. Never know I suppose.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Which is why I said BOS should not trade him in the first place. Because these Ds typically are worth more to their team than on the market. But in a vacuum I believe goal scorer are more valued than shutdown D so if VAN were to entertain the idea, the + would be significant

Has this been established, though? Looking at early to mid 20s shutdown RHD with team control and perhaps the best comp is the Adam Larsson trade. Schenn for JvR is out there too. Hamonic's circumstances were unique. C. Murphy was moved for another defenseman.

 

[RationalExpectations]

Has this been established, though? Looking at early to mid 20s shutdown RHD with team control and perhaps the best comp is the Adam Larsson trade. Schenn for JvR is out there too. Hamonic's circumstances were unique. C. Murphy was moved for another defenseman.

Yep Larsson trade is exactly why you don't do this kind of moves.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Yep Larsson trade is exactly why you don't do this kind of moves.

Respectfully disagree. One team’s strengths and needs aligning with another team’s needs and strengths is rare. The perfect trade is likely not going to materialize. The result of concern with optics is probably a hole in the lineup unfilled. Look at Toronto, which needed this exact player type 3 years ago. The Leafs are still searching for it today.

 

[604]

Boeser and Myers for Carlo + 1st?

 

[RationalExpectations]

Respectfully disagree. One team’s strengths and needs aligning with another team’s needs and strengths is rare. The perfect trade is likely not going to materialize. The result of concern with optics is probably a hole in the lineup unfilled. Look at Toronto, which needed this exact player type 3 years ago. The Leafs are still searching for it today.

Oh we fully agree on that point, but GMs want to keep their jobs and not look like fools. Look at the Hall trade, the Jones trade, one side is clearly looking bad and the issue is that if you trade Boeser scoring winger and then you have no one to fill the void, you are going going to be criticized by the press the fans and maybe lose your job. If you don't trade Boeser you can always blame the coach : you have provided him with two top centers, a top winger, a good top 4 and a quality goalie

I am the one saying guys like Carlo or Brodin are very important for a cup run. But you also need guys like Boeser to score the goals (MIN proves it )

 

[Richard88]

https://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-rumors-september-13-2020/

 

[Peter Griffin]

Nearly every team should be interested. Cap will be the issue, as most buyers would have to send cap back to Boston:
- Toronto
- Vancouver
- St. Louis (if Pietrangelo leaves)
- Tampa

Vancouver wouldn’t need to send cap back, at least not in the form of a cap dump.

 

[Diamonddog01]

Really not sure why Boston would trade Carlo but I'd definitely offer Boeser from Vancouver. Carlo is exactly what our defense needs. Mayfield is the only other player that fits the bill tbh.

 

[topshelf15]

Pretty rare type of defender,no way Boston moves him...If they did likely every team would take a look....