Player Discussion Brady Tkachuk: Episode 4 - A new hope

[Mark Stones Spleen]

He's an a**hole and I love it.

 

[devbouz12]

He's an a**hole and I love it.

So awesome to have one on our side for once

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I have a feeling if we did that pole again where over 85% of respondents wanted Zadina over Tkachuk if they both fell to us ... might go different now.. (and rightly so I should add). I knew he'd be a player fans would love when he got here and could contribute.. I thought he'd need more time but he's doing pretty fn good right off the bat.

 

[Karl Prime]

We finally have our Gary Roberts.

 

[Agent Zub]

Building great chemistry with Stone. Making lots of small passes to eachother. Both were +4 this afternoon.

man i hope that Stone comes back,

Stone is the perfect mentor for Tkachuk

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

man i hope that Stone comes back,

Stone is the perfect mentor for Tkachuk

Stone is the perfect mentor. Period.

What a leader; everyone can learn something from his game and character.

 

[swiftwin]

man i hope that Stone comes back,

Stone is the perfect mentor for Tkachuk

I think Stone is genuinely relishing the opportunity to be a leader. He's got Tkachuk living in his basement. It's like Alfie-Karlsson all over again. I'me very very confident we'll re-sign him. Duchene, I'm not so sure.

 

[Sensinitis]

I think Stone is genuinely relishing the opportunity to be a leader. He's got Tkachuk living in his basement. It's like Alfie-Karlsson all over again. I'me very very confident we'll re-sign him. Duchene, I'm not so sure.

Hopefully that means he re-signs because of this bonding time

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I think Stone is genuinely relishing the opportunity to be a leader. He's got Tkachuk living in his basement. It's like Alfie-Karlsson all over again. I'me very very confident we'll re-sign him. Duchene, I'm not so sure.

Yup... he keeps telling Brady... soak it all in son, next year you'll have to do it on your own

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

I think Stone is genuinely relishing the opportunity to be a leader. He's got Tkachuk living in his basement. It's like Alfie-Karlsson all over again. I'me very very confident we'll re-sign him. Duchene, I'm not so sure.

Duchene loves it here, and if we keep winning there is no way he doesn't sign unless we don't want him here either.

 

[Agent Zub]

I think Stone is genuinely relishing the opportunity to be a leader. He's got Tkachuk living in his basement. It's like Alfie-Karlsson all over again. I'me very very confident we'll re-sign him. Duchene, I'm not so sure.

yup my hope is Stone is eyeing that captaincy. He's just that type of player. but it will probably come down to money unfortunately.

 

[swiftwin]

Duchene loves it here, and if we keep winning there is no way he doesn't sign unless we don't want him here either.

Those are the two reasons why I'm not sure. We need to keep winning, and Melnyk will have to open the coin purse. If Stone signs, will Melnyk want to afford Duchene?

 

[Lundmark17]

I have a feeling if we did that pole again where over 85% of respondents wanted Zadina over Tkachuk if they both fell to us ... might go different now.. (and rightly so I should add). I knew he'd be a player fans would love when he got here and could contribute.. I thought he'd need more time but he's doing pretty fn good right off the bat.

Can definitely put myself in that category. Was bummed about the pick but Tkachuk has that drive to be successful and is getting things done. Him and Stone would be two great players to develop a new Senators identity around.

 

[topshelf15]

Those are the two reasons why I'm not sure. We need to keep winning, and Melnyk will have to open the coin purse. If Stone signs, will Melnyk want to afford Duchene?

EM cant use money as an excuse anymore,his ST base is gone...And the fans have spoken quite loudly ,he will have no choice

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

PD made a good selection in Brady, and a horrible trade in Duchene. Sending a non lottery protected 1st in one of the best draft years for a team with as many holes as Ottawa had, incredibly stupid

What does that even mean .... "a non lottery protected 1st" ?

Ottawa traded their 2018 1st rounder to Colorado in the Duchene deal ...... and that pick was Lottery Protected .......... meaning if it became a lottery pick, Ottawa retained the right to use it, and send them their 2019 1st rounder instead.

So Ottawa exercised their right, and used this years Lottery Protected pick, to select Tkachuk ,which automatically sent their 2019 1st to Colorado ........ so why are calling it "a non lottery protected 1st"? The pick is Colorado's now.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

So if the "anti Dorion crew" as you call them would have been against him no matter what, does that mean you'd have defended whatever move he made? The reality is most if not all who currently advocate for keeping the 2019 pick did so before the draft as well, they've been consistent with their position, so your claim that they would have been against him no matter what holds no weight.

We will see where the 2019 pick ends up in about 6 months a know whether the right decision was made or not, though if the still had their 2019 pick, they may have chosen to stack the deck a little more in their favour by trading of more vets.

If Pierre Dorion decided to order the chicken for supper, the anti Dorion crowd would complain and say he should have ordered the Fish and Chips.......... and vice versa.

 

[Micklebot]

I have a feeling if we did that pole again where over 85% of respondents wanted Zadina over Tkachuk if they both fell to us ... might go different now.. (and rightly so I should add). I knew he'd be a player fans would love when he got here and could contribute.. I thought he'd need more time but he's doing pretty fn good right off the bat.

I was leaning towards Zadina but had been one those defending Tkachuk as a solid pick at number four leading into the draft. Didn't think Zadina would slip to us, but gotta admit Tkachuk has exceeded my expectations.

Still too early to be calling winners and losers, but I can say that in this small sample, Tkachuk has already eased my concerns about certain aspects of his game.

 

[Micklebot]

If Pierre Dorion decided to order the chicken for supper, the anti Dorion crowd would complain and say he should have ordered the Fish and Chips.......... and vice versa.

the funny part is you're accusing them of having bias (whatever Dorion does is the wrong move) while doing the very same thing yourself (they'll automatically say he did the wrong thing), and in this case, they actually took their stance before Dorion made a decision, so it has nothing to do with hating Dorion (unless they're psychic).

Seems your the one who would complain no matter what happens.

 

[Ice-Tray]

What a player, love how he keeps topping dad and brother in each starting stat. Lots of family ribbing around the table at Thanksgiving!

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

the funny part is you're accusing them of having bias (whatever Dorion does is the wrong move) while doing the very same thing yourself (they'll automatically say he did the wrong thing), and in this case, they actually took their stance before Dorion made a decision, so it has nothing to do with hating Dorion (unless they're psychic).

Seems your the one who would complain no matter what happens.

I see Doroin's logic in selecting Thachuk, 4th overall this year, instead of gambling on a better drafting position next year, and gambling that teams don't jump ahead of them, by winning one of the lotteries, like two did this year.

 

[Alex1234]

I see Doroin's logic in selecting Thachuk, 4th overall this year, instead of gambling on a better drafting position next year, and gambling that teams don't jump ahead of them, by winning one of the lotteries, like two did this year.

Nice deflection but you re still accusing them of accusing

 

[Micklebot]

I see Doroin's logic in selecting Thachuk, 4th overall this year, instead of gambling on a better drafting position next year, and gambling that teams don't jump ahead of them, by winning one of the lotteries, like two did this year.

Ok, that's fine. They saw the logic of gambling for a franchise player. Both options have merit, claiming they'd complain regardless of what Dorion did in this case does not, because they held the opinion before Dorion made the choice.

 

[czechcanadian]

I have a feeling if we did that pole again where over 85% of respondents wanted Zadina over Tkachuk if they both fell to us ... might go different now.. (and rightly so I should add). I knew he'd be a player fans would love when he got here and could contribute.. I thought he'd need more time but he's doing pretty fn good right off the bat.

Tkachuk has definitely proved me wrong. I was 100% on the Zadina train.
Still believe Zadina will be a more productive player going forward but Tkachuk might have been the better option for Ottawa at this point in time.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

 

[coladin]

I was leaning towards Zadina but had been one those defending Tkachuk as a solid pick at number four leading into the draft. Didn't think Zadina would slip to us, but gotta admit Tkachuk has exceeded my expectations.

Still too early to be calling winners and losers, but I can say that in this small sample, Tkachuk has already eased my concerns about certain aspects of his game.

Just curious, what aspects were you concerned about?