SpeakingOfTheDevils
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Boyle for 2020 2nd and Mitch Vande Sompel
I don't really have interest in acquiring non-2019 picks for our deadline assets - which are limited, as is. We need to maximize.
Boyle for 2020 2nd and Mitch Vande Sompel
I thought the Isle's would be going hard for Matt Duchene to bolster their top 6 given the success they've had this season. I don't think this team is built to compete like this again next year, so IMO they should be swinging for the fences to compete with the big names on the Lightning, Leafs, Pens and Caps come playoff time.
To me, Boyle just doesn't add a ton to a teams top 9 outside of his steadiness. He's not going to be the piece to put a team over the top. I think the Islanders could really use some more production rather than depth.
He still has that Rangers stink on him. Never goes away.
I’m not sure I like the idea of trading with Lou.
He still has that Rangers stink on him. Never goes away.
Death, taxes, Lou trading for 4th line vets at the deadline
What happens when Ladd finally says he’s healthy ?
That's only cuz your Mom was here.Then of course there's the actual stink from New Jersey...
Exactly don't see a reason to treat this season as if it's the end of the world. To me it's just stupid islanders fans who can't see beyond Now Now NowI think this exactly why they need to NOT swing for the fences. They probably have a top 7-10 pool of prospects right now and have just brought in a new coach and GM. The best course of action would be to maintain the core pieces on the current roster, and over the next 2 or so years just try to be smart about the players you're bringing in, try to get out of a couple bad contracts, and phase in the young talent.
I really don't understand why they can't compete in the coming years with most of the same players and system in place, especially if they're using their assets wisely whether through trades or free agency and getting some of their prospects to hit in the NHL.
I think Boyle wants to stay in the NYC area due to family as well as his doctors being here so even though I don't like the idea of trading him to a (semi) rival, in Boyle's case I'm fine with it. I'd also be fine keeping him as he's played well and is a great locker room guy, but if we get a quality pick like a 2nd we should trade him.I was actually hoping the Flames would inquire about Boyle. Seems like he'd be a good guy to pick up around the TDL for a lot of teams.
Yep, he'll fetch at least a 2nd.Don't think Shero is going to give Boyle away. Even though the Devils are going nowhere this year, Boyle is a glue kind of guy who the team probably wants to extend for another year or two. So I'm guessing if he gets traded, it's for no less than a second or a prospect that the Devils really like.
Boyle is really good on special teams. For NJ he's basically filled the role of excellent faceoff man, PP net-front presence (which he is quite good at) and PK specialist (not the best, but combined with his faceoff skills he's been solid (and has even generated some offense on the PK).What on ever earth for? We need scorers for the pitiful PP. Not a guy who will in all liklihood sent Michael Dal Colle back to the AHL.
I think Boyle wants to stay in the NYC area due to family as well as his doctors being here so even though I don't like the idea of trading him to a (semi) rival, in Boyle's case I'm fine with it. I'd also be fine keeping him as he's played well and is a great locker room guy, but if we get a quality pick like a 2nd we should trade him.
Yep, he'll fetch at least a 2nd.
Boyle is really good on special teams. For NJ he's basically filled the role of excellent faceoff man, PP net-front presence (which he is quite good at) and PK specialist (not the best, but combined with his faceoff skills he's been solid (and has even generated some offense on the PK).
He's a great faceoff man. That is for sure, and that fills a definite need. But we need scoring. Not a guy who career high in points is 35...9 years ago.
I understand that getting Boyle doesn't stop them from getting someone else. But I just think they need to focus more on talent. It doesn't need to be high end talent. I really don't think we should be breaking the bank to go for it in what is likely a flukey year. But Lou should be thinking top 6, not bottom 6. Boyle may have the experience, but acquiring him sends down MDC who is at least by pedigree is an offensive threat. I'd rather give the experience to MDC then to bring in a 3rd liner. Even if it's a good 3rd liner like Boyle is.
you get an amen bruthaI think this exactly why they need to NOT swing for the fences. They probably have a top 7-10 pool of prospects right now and have just brought in a new coach and GM. The best course of action would be to maintain the core pieces on the current roster, and over the next 2 or so years just try to be smart about the players you're bringing in, try to get out of a couple bad contracts, and phase in the young talent.
I really don't understand why they can't compete in the coming years with most of the same players and system in place, especially if they're using their assets wisely whether through trades or free agency and getting some of their prospects to hit in the NHL.
That's it exactly. We need to keep our expectations simple while we build the structure, if you take shortcuts now because we are too impatient to do things right you limit your upside. Toews and Mayfield have taken big steps this year and if we had jumped the gun and traded for someone instead how do we know if we would be better or worse. Hell even Brock Nelson is playing beyond our wildest imaginings. I believe that when all is said and done Aho and Bellows will be core pieces too. Before the next wave.The thing is Boyle does score. He has a good shot, can tip fairly well, and is a decent net-front presence. He's not a playmaker and in many ways is a complimentary player, but if you want goals, that's literally what he does. But I do agree that you guys probably shouldn't be breaking the bank as you're probably too early to make a serious cup run.
That's only cuz your Mom was here.