Proposal: BOS - STL

[kthx]

This pretty much creates a different kind of problem for Boston so I think we say no. Trade value itself is pretty fair.

 

[Oates2Neely]

Lauzon
Zboril
Vaakaneinen
Gryzlek

Dunn is a good dman but he isn’t THAT much of an improvement over the Bruins current left side young dmen where they would move DeBrusk.

 

[Eddie Munson]

Gryz was already there. Bruins have 1 LHD and a bunch of maybes.

Well aware. He was an RFA and they chose to let Krug walk and throw 3.75 at Gryz as his replacement. What I'm saying is the Bruins have a bunch of kids that can fill the left side. If Gryz replaces Krug as their number 4, then what the Bruins really need is a number 2 next to McAvoy. Dunn is most certainly not that so I'm not seeing as to why we would trade DeBrusk for him?

 

[Djp]

Blues do not need to move players to be cap compliant.

$83.7M and 21 contracts on cap friendly doesn’t appear to be cap compliant

 

[Blueston]

$83.7M and 21 contracts on cap friendly doesn’t appear to be cap compliant

LTIR. Steen is likely done and Tarasenko out for months.

 

[StlBill]

This is actually a pretty decent proposal. I understand some saying we’d add, but I could legit see Dunn getting into the 40 point range with more playing time. Debrusk would look great playing with Schenn.

 

[wintersej]

Expansion draft makes this bad for Boston.

 

[BruinsBtn]

Expansion draft makes this bad for Boston.

Underrated point. You're trading Debrusk for one year of Dunn.

 

[wintersej]

To elaborate... is Dunn THAT much better (if at all) than Gryz to lose Gryz in expansion AND to have lost DeBrusk?

 

[BlackFrancis]

To elaborate... is Dunn THAT much better (if at all) than Gryz to lose Gryz in expansion AND to have lost DeBrusk?

Well, a couple of them were offering Blais, and you know how much the Bruins need a 4th line player.

 

[Colt55]

$83.7M and 21 contracts on cap friendly doesn’t appear to be cap compliant

Ltir we have about 12 mil so we good.

 

[Colt55]

Well, a couple of them were offering Blais, and you know how much the Bruins need a 4th line player.

Blais is a 2nd to 3rd line rw banger who can score

 

[sfvega]

Blais is a 2nd to 3rd line rw banger who can score

Blais should, and I believe will, start the year on our 4th line. I know some of our fanbase thinks he's got a lot of offensive upside, but I don't see it. Better suited for the 4th line and could develop into the 3rd line. But when you look at Blais his skills and you look at the guys in our top 6 (even including Sanford in for Tank), he sticks out like a sore thumb.

 

[Tryblot]

Blais should, and I believe will, start the year on our 4th line. I know some of our fanbase thinks he's got a lot of offensive upside, but I don't see it. Better suited for the 4th line and could develop into the 3rd line. But when you look at Blais his skills and you look at the guys in our top 6 (even including Sanford in for Tank), he sticks out like a sore thumb.

He has some unexpectedly good hands sometimes. I don't know if he will ever be a 20 goal scorer but he's not an offensive black hole. I'd like to see him get an opportunity in the top 6 without him getting injured because he was putting up some solid points last year before the injury.

 

[Colt55]

Blais should, and I believe will, start the year on our 4th line. I know some of our fanbase thinks he's got a lot of offensive upside, but I don't see it. Better suited for the 4th line and could develop into the 3rd line. But when you look at Blais his skills and you look at the guys in our top 6 (even including Sanford in for Tank), he sticks out like a sore thumb.

Only if jyrou and kostin are ahead of him..if not then he should

 

[sfvega]

Only if jyrou and kostin are ahead of him..if not then he should

Kyrou should be ahead of him. Top 6 is pretty set with Schenn, Schwartz, ROR, Thomas, Perron, and Sanford. Bozak is 7th, Kyrou is more talented offensively, actually brings speed and playmaking, and fits 3rd line way better than 4th. I feel like all of those are pretty set. Then you would have Sunny vs. Blais. The argument for Sunny on 4th line would be that he's better defensively, deploying him with Barbs as a shutdown line again. But I feel like the argument for Sunny on 3rd line is that he's also better than Blais there. Blais looked best when he was on a line with 2 All Star players. They both have a solid wrist shot, but Sunny seems like the better passer.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Blais is a 2nd to 3rd line rw banger who can score

He is a 4th liner and 24. Every team has a number of those.

Sanford is intriguing but at 25 is he much more than another 3rd line type 15 goal scorer?

The Bruins have a need for scorers... like Debrusk. Not depth.

 

[sfvega]

He is a 4th liner and 24. Every team has a number of those.

Sanford is intriguing but at 25 is he much more than another 3rd line type 15 goal scorer?

The Bruins have a need for scorers... like Debrusk. Not depth.

I agree with you on Blais, but very much disagree on Sanford. Sanford had 20 points in his last 30 games before the shutdown, and was one of the brighter spots (if there were any) for us in the bubble. He was just hitting his stride and looked great for most of the year. For a guy who had already surpassed 15 goals in about 2/3rds of a season, I think passing him off as a guy who has already reached his ceiling as less than that in a full season seems pessimistic. Especially considering that he had very little time on the PP. A lot of our fans don't want to move him at all, and I'd be against adding him to Dunn for DeBrusk, despite me liking DeBrusk's game.

 

[wintersej]

STL needs to find more than one team with

1) Budget for Dunn
2) Only two d-men worth protecting
3) A need for a offense leaning two way possibly 2nd pairing D.

Boston ain’t that.

 

[EastVillageBlues]

STL needs to find more than one team with

1) Budget for Dunn
2) Only two d-men worth protecting
3) A need for a offense leaning two way possibly 2nd pairing D.

Boston ain’t that.

Like I said before, Canadiens are probably the best place for landing Dunn. They easily could use him, and probably wouldn't mind signing him to a competitive contract.

Even though the Blues likely have the space (Steen and Tank are both likely to be on LTIR next season), I don't think they are inclined to commit to Dunn long term, with Krug in the fold, and Perunovich ready to compete for a spot. So if he stays, it would probably be for a short bridge.

Other possibilities would be teams like Edmonton (depends on how much they can save on Klefbom's LTIR), NJD (depending on how much they trust Murray as a top-4 D), LAK (depending on how they view Maatta), Buffalo (depends on if they have an internal cap), etc. I don't expect him to go to a contender.

 

[wintersej]

Like I said before, Canadiens are probably the best place for landing Dunn. They easily could use him, and probably wouldn't mind signing him to a competitive contract.

Even though the Blues likely have the space (Steen and Tank are both likely to be on LTIR next season), I don't think they are inclined to commit to Dunn long term, with Krug in the fold, and Perunovich ready to compete for a spot. So if he stays, it would probably be for a short bridge.

Other possibilities would be teams like Edmonton (depends on how much they can save on Klefbom's LTIR), NJD (depending on how much they trust Murray as a top-4 D), LAK (depending on how they view Maatta), Buffalo (depends on if they have an internal cap), etc. I don't expect him to go to a contender.

Would EDM protect him over Nurse, Klef and Bear? Buffalo over Dahlin, Risto and Joker? Habs only have 300k in cap space left after taking on Allen and Edmunson.

It’s not a very big market. STL would be way better off holding him until after expansion.

 

[Tbaybruin]

I’m not adding Sanford to Dunn. They can have Blais instead but that’s it.

I would love Blais. If that didn’t work out what would it take to just get Blais?

 

[WeWentBlues]

STL needs to find more than one team with

1) Budget for Dunn
2) Only two d-men worth protecting
3) A need for a offense leaning two way possibly 2nd pairing D.

Boston ain’t that.

Bingo. Nailed it.

I wonder if Vegas would be interested since they are exempt and could use LD on a cheaper contract.

Knowing Army, he probably has Vegas blacklisted.

 

[Colt55]

I would love Blais. If that didn’t work out what would it take to just get Blais?

1st or 2 2nds

Nhl ready young tough cheaper contract

 

[glenbuis]

Hope not , not my type of player . I would rather see them go after a Pacioretty if possible than Hoffman who is soft .

I have no irons in this fire my friend but as a Habs fan you don’t want pacioretty . He will drive you absolutely berserk with his half arse attempts at effort . Lazy . Skates back to the bench , I should say coasts back . He literally has to pretend he cares . No second effort . I would have been happy with Tatar straight up . At least he gives an honest effort.