McKenzie: Bob McKenzie via Frank Seravalli: Lucic met with the Dallas Stars

[ZeHockeyFan]

That's like asking why the Oilers constantly draft forwards.

You need to assess the team's situation or take the time to read analysis from the team's fans, like this one posted just a little while ago

Well, we do need depth on wing in the top-six. Sharp will likely not return after this season and we can't expect our 2nd line to be comparably potent with Spezza centering Eakin and Janmark. Ideally Nichushkin and Brett Ritchie should be on the RW on the top two lines, but neither of them has shown the kind of skills or finish thus far. I just am not sure Lucic is the person to bring the kind of offensive skills we are looking for; definitely not for his asking price which may be $6M+.

 

[defensorfidei]

I really really really think this is Gaglardi driving up the price for Vancouver as part of the rivalry with the Aquilini fam.

 

[oobga]

Tons of teams are interested in Lucic, But with Hall moved for Larsson. I think it's safe to say that Lucic is signing with Edmonton.

That's hard to say. It's not like the Oilers strengthened their bargaining position with Lucic yesterday. And nothing binding can be agreed on until tomorrow.

 

[Dr Danglefest]

Tons of teams are interested in Lucic, But with Hall moved for Larsson. I think it's safe to say that Lucic is signing with Edmonton.

While I honestly agree with you, to say anything that has happened thus far was a given before it happened would be completely outlandish

People said it was safe to say Stammer wasn't staying with the Lightning after a year long wait and boom

 

[Unspecified]

Why would we move Sharp, though? He's been great for us, likely getting an A next year, fits our system better, I prefer having him around our younger guys... I'd be upset if the return isn't stellar, should that be the case.

We miss that really physical type player on the offensive zone. Yes we have Roussel but he is more a pest that a powerful physical player. He will make room for other players to score and he can still net a few himself. I think Dallas is more on the cusp of getting further in the playoffs than the Oilers.

 

[Cupless44]

He's going to get paid.

It is sounding like 7x6.

As. Canuck fan I have no interest in bringing him home for that term. Last 3-4 years of that contract are going to hurt. Power forwards don't age well and he is already a bit slow.

 

[WhatWhat]

Wow, stars would be stacked up front w him.

Benn-Seguin-???
Lucic-Spezza-Sharp
doesn't even matter who's first line RW (idk Stars depth chart that well). That's two first lines

the last top 6 spot could go to Nuke, Eakin, Janmark or Ritchie (with a good camp). Management loves Eakin and Faksa should be 3C. I would not be surprised to see us start with a Benn-Eakin-Seguin frist line as much as I hate that combination

 

[Mr Positive]

It is sounding like 7x6.

As. Canuck fan I have no interest in bringing him home for that term. Last 3-4 years of that contract are going to hurt. Power forwards don't age well and he is already a bit slow.

where are you hearing the contract details?

 

[Draiskull]

where are you hearing the contract details?

in his mind... its all purely speculation when it comes to term and $$

 

[TruGr1t]

Dallas doesn't appear to have the cap space to field a very competitive offer here.

 

[Mr Misty]

Dallas doesn't appear to have the cap space to field a very competitive offer here.

13m not enough somehow?

 

[Chaos]

Dallas doesn't appear to have the cap space to field a very competitive offer here.

They have plenty of cap space. Not only that, but Im guessing if they do end up signing Lucic they will probably try and trade away at least one forward, maybe two.

 

[SenzZen]

Dallas' plan ought to be:

1) sign Lucic
2) loan him to the Preds to learn to be a d-man
3) ?????
4) Cup!

Who is Martin?

 

[TruGr1t]

13m not enough somehow?

Ah sorry, read the wrong number on the cap site. They could indeed be in play here then.

 

[xxxx]

Easy. You trade Neimi+Nuke to Pittsburgh for MAF+ a pick.

After the next season, there is expansion draft. Teams get to protect just one goalie. That means that if they are not UFAs before the 2017-18 season, they are free to be picked by Las Vegas. Or am I wrong? At least that's the way I understand that. Anyway, I wonder how will those teams solve those situations. Dallas has Niemi and Lehtonen, Tampa has Bishop and Vasilevsky, Pittsburgh has Murray and Fleury, Arizona has Smith and Lindback, the Flyers have Mason and Neuvirth.....the Blues already made a move, by trading Elliott to Calgary. Anaheim traded Anderson to Toronto. The thing is, if you move Bishop or Fleury to Dallas, for Lehtonen or Niemi, how does that changes their situation? They will be having the same problem again. Even if a goalie is UFA after the next season, his respective team sure won't be risking losing them for nothing, so I expect a lot of goaltender moving this season.

 

[Mr Misty]

After the next season, there is expansion draft. Teams get to protect just one goalie. That means that if they are not UFAs before the 2017-18 season, they are free to be picked by Las Vegas. Or am I wrong? Anyway, I wonder how will those teams solve those situations. Dallas has Niemi and Lehtonen, Tampa has Bishop and Vasilevsky, Pittsburgh has Murray and Fleury, Arizona has Smith and Lindback, the Flyers have Mason and Neuvirth.....the Blues already made a move, by trading Elliott to Calgary. Anaheim traded Anderson to Toronto. The thing is, if you move Bishop or Fleury to Dallas, how does that changes their situation? They will be having the same problem again. Even if a goalie is UFA after the next season, his respective team sure won't be risking losing them for nothing, so I expect a lot of goaltender moving this season.

Except there aren't a bunch of landing spots for goalies to move to, really just Dallas, Philly if they don't want Mason or Neuvirth, Vancouver if they don't want Markstrom, and NYI if they don't want Halak or Greiss. Somebody is going to be left without a chair when the music stops.

Also our goalies are not worth protecting. They might be as good or better than some of the other exposed goalies but the stats and their contracts make their chances of selection remote.

 

[PancakeHero]

I put the likelihood of Lucic in Dallas at approximately 2.5 %.

 

[Captain Controversy]

Rumors are lucic may be making 6.5 million x 7 years.

 

[ZeHockeyFan]

Rumors are lucic may be making 6.5 million x 7 years.

If this^ is true...

I put the likelihood of Lucic in Dallas at approximately 2.5 %.

...then this^ assessment is a much needed relief.

 

[oobga]

Rumors are lucic may be making 6.5 million x 7 years.

 

[LordHelmet]

I don't understand any interest in Lucic from the Dallas end.

Sure he'd be fun to watch on our 3rd/4th line, and a nice acquisition us at $3.5M AAV and no NMC. But we all know that those terms are completely unreasonable.

I'm not in a panic over the Stars defense/goaltending situation right now, but I can't see any wisdom in using our cap space to add a high priced forward.

 

[colchar]

If the Oilers traded Hall to make room for him and he signs elsewhere..........

 

[kasper11]

I don't understand any interest in Lucic from the Dallas end.

Sure he'd be fun to watch on our 3rd/4th line, and a nice acquisition us at $3.5M AAV and no NMC. But we all know that those terms are completely unreasonable.

I'm not in a panic over the Stars defense/goaltending situation right now, but I can't see any wisdom in using our cap space to add a high priced forward.

Right now, 2 division rivals are eying him, Edmonton and Vancouver. Worth it to meet with him and try to drive up the price.

Also, signing him could allow Dallas to move a forward for G or D help.

 

[Shrimper]

Imagine trading Hall to give you space to sign Lucic and then he goes elsewhere.

 

[Ajacied]

I don't understand any interest in Lucic from the Dallas end.

Sure he'd be fun to watch on our 3rd/4th line, and a nice acquisition us at $3.5M AAV and no NMC. But we all know that those terms are completely unreasonable.

I'm not in a panic over the Stars defense/goaltending situation right now, but I can't see any wisdom in using our cap space to add a high priced forward.

Agreed. Doesn't hurt to show any interest, but the priorities lay elsewhere..