Has nothing to do with just using that card, it's legitimately one of the reasons scouts are so high on him, it's a universally agreed upon facet of his game. If you don't see that, it's a valid questionI’ve seen plenty. Seems like you just disagree with me and automatically go with the “ you have never seen him play“ card. Typical around this website.
The journalistic standards of this article are so bad.Macklin Celebrini the unanimous No. 1 prospect in Bob McKenzie's mid-season draft ranking | TSN
Ten out of 10 NHL team scouts surveyed by TSN have the 17-year-old Boston University freshman centre at No. 1. Almost all of them can’t see anyone other than Celebrini going first overall on June 28.www.tsn.ca
So that raises the question: What exactly are we looking at in terms of Celebrini, the North Vancouver product?
Potential star? Superstar? Franchise player? Generational talent?
Well, before attempting to answer that, one needs some context on these terms that get thrown around so liberally these days.
Generational, for instance. No one would argue that Connor McDavid, No. 1 overall in 2015, was at the time of his draft and now in terms of his current day stature is a generational talent. But one may well be inclined to say the same thing about 2023 first-overall pick Connor Bedard.
Can you have two generational players separated by only eight years, when the dictionary definition of “generation” is a 15- to 20-year span?
Apparently, you can.
Actually, going down the “generational” rabbit hole can be fraught with peril, an exercise in complexity.
No one would dispute Sidney Crosby’s status as a generational player – not in his 2005 draft year and not now either. But as promising as 2004 No. 1 overall Alexander Ovechkin was 20 years ago, I don’t recall anyone at that time suggesting Ovie was “generational.” But now that he has become the greatest goal scorer of his generation, and still has a chance to be the most prolific scorer ever in NHL history, he has transcended “generational.”
When Cale Makar was drafted fourth overall behind Nico Hischier, Nolan Patrick, and Miro Heiskanen in 2017, he wasn’t even considered the best player available that year, but now or in the future? Is Makar generational? Discuss amongst yourselves, but whatever he is, it’s something special.
What about Nate MacKinnon? Auston Matthews? Where does generational end and “franchise” player begin? Do you only ask the question during a player’s draft year? Or can it be applied after the fact? What about the delineation between a franchise player and a mere superstar? It’s all so subjective to begin with, you can really get into the weeds on it.
Nevertheless, we asked some scouts about where on the spectrum of generational-franchise-superstar they see Celebrini.
The consensus seems to be that Celebrini is not considered generational — certainly not McDavid and maybe not Bedard either — but there are equal amounts of support for him being a franchise player or being at the superstar level.
“He’s a franchise player,” one scout said definitely. “He will be a game changer for the franchise that gets him.”
“He’ll be very good, he’ll consistently put up great numbers, but I don’t know if he will carry a franchise,” said another scout.
“If Auston Matthews is a franchise player and Mitch Marner and William Nylander are superstars, I would project Celebrini closer to Marner and Nylander than Matthews,” said another scout.
Ritchie has been ranked as a first rounder pretty much everywhere all yearI think I remember last year that there weren't too many differences from the pre-season to mid-season rankings. There were just subtle trajectories on how prospects were trending. The big differences usually come at the end of the year. Ryder Ritchie and Charlie Elick being 1st rounders surprises me. Buium at #13 is a shock too
A lot of those rankings are very amateur. Outside of Mckenzie and Central scouting, the input on most of those lists aren't that great. I expected Ritchie to slide a bit more. We'll see if he slides further before JuneRitchie has been ranked as a first rounder pretty much everywhere all year
Ranked #19 by CONSOLIDATED RANKING
Ranked #9 by ELITEPROSPECTS.COM
Ranked #17 by DAILY FACEOFF
Ranked #20 by THE HOCKEY NEWS
Ranked #11 by MCKEEN'S HOCKEY
Ranked #25 by TSN/CRAIG BUTTON
Ranked #16 by NHL CENTRAL SCOUTING (NA Skaters)
Ranked #17 by DOBBERPROSPECTS
Ranked #26 by DRAFT PROSPECTS HOCKEY
Ranked #23 by SMAHT SCOUTING
Even using only the ones you deem worthy, he's been a 1st all yearA lot of those rankings are very amateur. Outside of Mckenzie and Central scouting, the input on most of those lists aren't that great. I expected Ritchie to slide a bit more. We'll see if he slides further before June
I couldn't believe the volume of rambling in this articleThe journalistic standards of this article are so bad.
Want scouting insights? Well here's pontification about "what is generational" instead.
Levshunov is the better offensive d-man.Can someone give me a difference between Levshunov and Silayev? Is one a better offensive defenseman than the other, and which one is faster?
Late birthday and only 5’10”. if you notice, not many small players in his rankingWas not expecting Colton Roberts to come in as a HM when some other places have him ranked top 32 (Central Scouting, HP). That one was surprising for me.
Can someone tell me why Misa isn't ranked higher despite the season he is having??
The journalistic standards of this article are so bad.
Want scouting insights? Well here's pontification about "what is generational" instead.
He is Elvis Iginla's grandsonI assume Tij Iginla is Jerome's kid?
EliteProspects doesn't work well on my work computer, sorry...