Bob Mckenzie Final Rankings

[AustonsNostrils]

Kotkaniemi to Montreal seems like a thing at this point. They might trade for ROR the same day and revamp that position in one day.

lol no, without the 3rd pick Montreal has nothing worth Buffalo trading ROR for.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Dobson, Hughes, Bouchard, and Boqvist all available at #6?

 

[Liferleafer]

Ya the 20-30 range seems to be full of exactly what TO needs: D-men and centers. Still hoping Dahlin slips to 25 though....

As lucky as i feel we got with Liljegren falling to 17 last season....this may be pushing it...

 

[WingsMJN2965]

I secretly hope Detroit trades whatever they can for pick 7, take Dobson and Bouchard and create a pairing called, "Douchard."

 

[Rabid Ranger]

I think tkachuk is a "safe" pick and has a low chance of busting. When you draft high, I rather swing for the fences than take a guy I compare to tj oshie. A good player but not a superstar.

That's not the perception of this group of scouts though. He's viewed as raw with untapped potential which is contrary to how a lot of posters as him pegged.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

I wish I saw what all the scouts see in Tkachuk. I think he’s a top20 player in this draft but I’m not taking him Top5

He may end up being really good like his brother

If you are an Isles fan, you got to like seeing Boqvist and Hughes within striking range at #11. To me this is the biggest need other than a #1G for the Isles.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Babcock v Merkley would be fun.

It would literally be Babcock vs. Brendan Smith on steroids.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

If you are an Isles fan, you got to like seeing Boqvist and Hughes within striking range at #11. To me this is the biggest need other than a #1G for the Isles.

If I'm Ken Holland and I'm able to grab Dobson or Bouchard at #6 and Hughes or Boqvist is still available at #10, I'm packaging as many picks as necessary with AA/Nyquist to get that pick.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

If I'm Ken Holland and I'm able to grab Dobson or Bouchard at #6 and Hughes or Boqvist is still available at #10, I'm packaging as many picks as necessary with AA/Nyquist to get that pick.

The funny thing is, I like Hughes and Boqvist a tad bit more than Bouchard and Dobson. But I do like them all. D men are hard to find in the NHL. Everyone wants them, and drafting them would be the easiest way to get them. I can see some jockeying from a few partners.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

The funny thing is, I like Hughes and Boqvist a tad bit more than Bouchard and Dobson. But I do like them all. D men are hard to find in the NHL. Everyone wants them, and drafting them would be the easiest way to get them. I can see some jockeying from a few partners.

I think you're getting a solid D-man no matter which of the four you get. The only way it may go wrong is for Hughes with his size.

Which makes it more likely that Holland trades back a couple picks and takes what's left. I don't think DET has the pieces to get #10. 30 + 33 + 36 is too much for them and too little for anybody else.

That said, I think with the pick of the four, Holland takes Bouchard or Dobson over Hughes or Boqvist. He's been going with size and skating ability lately.

 

[Jtown]

Tkachuk's not the 3rd best prospect in this draft, I have him towards the lower end of the top 10.

his ceiling is very high. And some believe he could still move over to Center.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Hughes at 8 makes me moist

 

[ImNeverWrong]

That's not the perception of this group of scouts though. He's viewed as raw with untapped potential which is contrary to how a lot of posters as him pegged.

not overly impressed with the many times i have seen him. Scouts are wrong more often than not. Like I said, he will be a good player...but a great player, nope.

 

[voxel]

Recent late draft risers that I can remember were scheifele and Ryan Johansen, both centers too...

Yeah, plenty of examples of draft risers.. PLD also. I forget if Draisaitl rose much from mid-season to draft.

Draft fallers... wow... plenty of examples of busts.

 

[Hfbsux]

Everybody knows about McKenzie's famous list. If I'm one of those 10 NHL scouts, I'm giving him false information for sure. I'd rate some players we don't want higher, in hope that someone gets influenced by that list. In fact, I'd be very surprise if the GM would be fine with one of his scouts giving information like that. Sure we don't know who the scouts are, but some might know. I'm really skeptical about it, just my 2 cents.

 

[Kalost]

Everybody knows about McKenzie's famous list. If I'm one of those 10 NHL scouts, I'm giving him false information for sure. I'd rate some players we don't want higher, in hope that someone gets influenced by that list. In fact, I'd be very surprise if the GM would be fine with one of his scouts giving information like that. Sure we don't know who the scouts are, but some might know. I'm really skeptical about it, just my 2 cents.

So you think a team is like well i really like this player...but Mckenzie's list has this guy higher lets draft him instead!

 

[HockeyAnalystGenius]

As Ususual Bob just follows the Consensus Draft Rankings right to the T and offers No Unique Perspective. Oh well. Kotakanemi is not going to do it.

 

[Hfbsux]

So you think a team is like well i really like this player...but Mckenzie's list has this guy higher lets draft him instead!

I'm skeptical a GM would let one of their scout giving any confidential information to the mainstream media.

 

[TopC0rner]

As was said on the Bobcast, the top 12 players figured top 5 on at least one of the lists (from the 12 scouts). Considering there is another 19 teams with likely different lists and that among the 12 lists submitted each top 12 player figured top 5 on at least one of them, it's quite likely the list gets shuffled quite a bit on draft day. It only takes one team liking a prospect for him to get selected.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

If Merkley is around in the 2nd round I feel like Detroit almost has to take him. Three picks in that range. Might as well take a swing.

 

[BB88]

Yeah, plenty of examples of draft risers.. PLD also. I forget if Draisaitl rose much from mid-season to draft.

Draft fallers... wow... plenty of examples of busts.

I prefer prospects who keep getting better as the season goes and finish their seasons strong.

If we look at Finland and the recent prospects who have gotten better as the season has gone on and ended their seasons strong, Laine, Aho, Rantanen, Vesalainen, Heiskanen.
That's a pretty good looking list.

 

[voxel]

I prefer prospects who keep getting better as the season goes and finish their seasons strong.

If we look at Finland and the recent prospects who have gotten better as the season has gone on and ended their seasons strong, Laine, Aho, Rantanen, Vesalainen, Heiskanen.
That's a pretty good looking list.

+1

Progression is a great sign. Regression/decline is death for a prospect.

 

[ProspectsFanatic]

Everybody knows about McKenzie's famous list. If I'm one of those 10 NHL scouts, I'm giving him false information for sure. I'd rate some players we don't want higher, in hope that someone gets influenced by that list. In fact, I'd be very surprise if the GM would be fine with one of his scouts giving information like that. Sure we don't know who the scouts are, but some might know. I'm really skeptical about it, just my 2 cents.

His list is the closest one to the actual draft every year.

 

[Hynh]

So you think a team is like well i really like this player...but Mckenzie's list has this guy higher lets draft him instead!

Some teams would draft better if they did

 

[ObscureAlien]

I'm skeptical a GM would let one of their scout giving any confidential information to the mainstream media.

an individual scout's list is not the same as a team's list. and tbh there's a reason scouts continue to provide him rankings: he is not going to disclose each individual list in it's entirety and he is not going to name the scout's and teams they work for because no scout would ever trust him again and he wouldn't be able to make this list for us, therefore losing the $ that the clicks and tv special provide.

Edit: and you can make the argument that McKenzie's ranking and tv special help grow the game.