Blues Forum Lounge (Home of All Things OT) - Part 2018

[KirkOut]

who doesn't love an ugly win

 

[bluesfan94]

Great W. Way to scrap it together. Also, Hicks had a two inning outing.

 

[KirkOut]

Great W. Way to scrap it together. Also, Hicks had a two inning outing.

Easy there Euler are you sure about your math?

 

[bluesfan94]

Easy there Euler are you sure about your math?

Actually no. He pitched in the 9th and 10th but wasn’t removed via pinch hitter until the 11th, so he may have pitched three innings??? @TheDizee please advise.

 

[TheDizee]

wainwright should not sniff another start while in a cardinal uniform. if he wants to continue to shrink his career stats as a starter, let him do it in another uniform.

cards are lucky they have a day off because the entire rotation outside of wacha has been a joke with wainwright taking the cake. 3 runs on 1 hit in the 1st inning, get outta here waino.

 

[Vladdy the Impaler]

It's a long season. Gotta the love the scrappy effort today. Wong remains hot. Cards took the extra innings lead on a crotch shot off the ump, I'll take it.

My one big gripe is that the starting pitching so far looks pretty shaky. I would wager that the pitching rotation gets shaken up multiple times throughout the season.

 

[TheDizee]

It's a long season. Gotta the love the scrappy effort today. Wong remains hot.

My one big gripe is that the starting pitching so far looks pretty shaky. I would wager that the pitching rotation gets shaken up multiple times throughout the season.

Wainwright to the bullpen as the "long man" aka Mop up duty b/c he stinks

Gant to the rotation

or DeWallet could stop being cheap and sign Keuchel and actually go for it instead of putting 1 foot in the water and 1 out.

 

[TheDizee]

also i hope Martinez gets starts over Ozuna until he decides to actually perform like a big league player and not a Noodle armed K machine

 

[bluesfan94]

Signing Keuchel now is silly.

 

[Veneficus]

Signing Keuchel now is silly.

You want Waino starting after this game? I absolutely love Waino and everything he did for the cards, he's toast though. I'd sign Keuchel for 2 years no problem, it's not my money though.

 

[bluesfan94]

You want Waino starting after this game? I absolutely love Waino and everything he did for the cards, he's toast though. I'd sign Keuchel for 2 years no problem, it's not my money though.

Signing a pitcher that hasn't gone through spring training and expecting a positive effect before, say, June, is silly. It's like we learned nothing from Holland. But to answer your question, no, I'm not ready to cut bait on a pitcher after one game, even if it wasn't a good game. For what it's worth, if I was Boston, I wouldn't bench Sale either. Nor would I take away Greinke's starting spot. Same with Darvish, Carrasco, Arrieta, or Nola, who had more walks than Waino.

But even if I was willing to pull Waino after one game, I would rather replace him with Reyes, Gant, Poncedeleon, or Gomber than rely on Keuchel.

 

[TheDizee]

Wainwright hasnt been relevant since 2014.

Dont compare him to Sale, Greinke, Arrietta etc.

 

[Veneficus]

Signing a pitcher that hasn't gone through spring training and expecting a positive effect before, say, June, is silly. It's like we learned nothing from Holland. But to answer your question, no, I'm not ready to cut bait on a pitcher after one game, even if it wasn't a good game. For what it's worth, if I was Boston, I wouldn't bench Sale either. Nor would I take away Greinke's starting spot. Same with Darvish, Carrasco, Arrieta, or Nola, who had more walks than Waino.

But even if I was willing to pull Waino after one game, I would rather replace him with Reyes, Gant, Poncedeleon, or Gomber than rely on Keuchel.

I get what you're saying. Waino was pretty bad last year too though. His stuff isn't good enough and he can't locate anymore, that was never a problem in the past. I'm all for Reyes starting but that doesn't seem likely until later this year. I don't think we sign Keuchel, but I think he'd improve our rotation which could be the weakness for this team.

 

[bluesfan94]

I get what you're saying. Waino was pretty bad last year too though. His stuff isn't good enough and he can't locate anymore, that was never a problem in the past. I'm all for Reyes starting but that doesn't seem likely until later this year. I don't think we sign Keuchel, but I think he'd improve our rotation which could be the weakness for this team.

He's not able to locate in this one start he had this year. He also had his highest strikeout rate ever last year. I'm willing to give him a few more games before pulling the plug, and like I said, I don't think Keuchel will be all that good until June, and it's not like Keuchel consistently sets the world on fire.

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

I wish there were a separate OT thread just for the Cards. I don’t care about any of this, but there might be stuff in the OT thread I am interested in otherwise.

 

[Veneficus]

He's not able to locate in this one start he had this year. He also had his highest strikeout rate ever last year. I'm willing to give him a few more games before pulling the plug, and like I said, I don't think Keuchel will be all that good until June, and it's not like Keuchel consistently sets the world on fire.

He pitched 40.1 major league innings last year and tied his 2nd highest k% of his career, he also had the highest bb% of his career. I don't think he was able to locate last year was more of my point, it's not a one start thing it's more of a trend.