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Patrick Marleau:
“The league had these games canceled already in the summer. They are just releasing that info now,â€
http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/27/patrick-marleau-has-an-interesting-conspiracy-theory/
So taking signing bonuses to avoid having to pay your fair share of escrow (and thus making the rest of the players in the league pay your share for you) is somehow ethical?
So what does the PA do now? They can't have their full salary argument anymore. They can't get 1.8 billion anymore. They might not get more than a billion this season. And 30% of their players are free agents next season. What will they do next?
Patrick Marleau:
“The league had these games canceled already in the summer. They are just releasing that info now,â€
http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/27/patrick-marleau-has-an-interesting-conspiracy-theory/
Patrick Marleau:
“The league had these games canceled already in the summer. They are just releasing that info now,â€
http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/27/patrick-marleau-has-an-interesting-conspiracy-theory/
Good question. I certainly hope they aren't waiting for the NHL to make the next move like they have been all along but they probably are.
Again this comes down to who blinks first.
Theres factions in each camp that will lead to that "B'linkage". It's just when does that happen.
the scary part is that owners/NHL prepared to wipe out a season to get their 50/50 on their terms'
players prepared to stand their ground...
my question if no one blinks between now and next year...what happens to the next year
the scary part is that owners/NHL prepared to wipe out a season to get their 50/50 on their terms'
players prepared to stand their ground...
my question if no one blinks between now and next year...what happens to the next year
Pretty safe to say the players come crawling back. They may even push Fehr out of the way at that point (doubtful but it may happen).
I think it's a little different though cuz the cap and linkage are huge deals that are already cemented. The difference in money between the 2 sides isn't and should'nt be a huge hurdle to get over even though both sides are making this a huge hurdle right now.
I'm still optimistic there will be a Stanley Cup winner in 2013.
He had this title picked in the summer.
Patrick Marleau:
“The league had these games canceled already in the summer. They are just releasing that info now,â€
http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/27/patrick-marleau-has-an-interesting-conspiracy-theory/
Lovely - Just what we need.
There must be an abandoned hospital somewhere we can gather the players into. We could store them there until this is over and then we could let them out to play.
Just make sure there is plenty of port and loud black ferraris
Pretty safe to say the players come crawling back. They may even push Fehr out of the way at that point (doubtful but it may happen).
I think it's a little different though cuz the cap and linkage are huge deals that are already cemented. The difference in money between the 2 sides isn't and should'nt be a huge hurdle to get over even though both sides are making this a huge hurdle right now.
I'm still optimistic there will be a Stanley Cup winner in 2013.
What seems to be the main stumbling block? Why, the idea that the owners have to honour player contracts signed under the rule of the previous collective bargaining agreement.
The strangest thing is the league doesn’t really even have to entertain this idea, never mind make any offers to make players “whole,†as the legalistic description has it.
As mentioned in an earlier column regarding the Russian players’ empty threats, their contracts were all written, agreed to and signed under the previous collective bargaining agreement, the one that expired Sept. 15.
Why are their threats of not coming back if they were to lose a single kopeck (or cent, your pick) empty? Simply because the CBA that their own union, the NHLPA, had agreed to, says so.
It says so in Paragraph 18 thus:
“18. The Club and the Player severally and mutually promise and agree to be legally bound by the League Rules and by any Collective Bargaining Agreement that has been or may be entered into between the member clubs of the League and the NHLPA, and by all of the terms and provisions thereof, copies of which shall be open and available for inspection by the Club, its directors and officers, and the Player, at the main office of the League, the main office of the Club, and the main office of the NHLPA. This SPC is entered into subject to the CBA between the NHL and the NHLPA and any provisions of this SPC inconsistent with such CBA are superseded by the provisions of the CBA.â€
And, of course, come to think of it, this particular paragraph not only makes the Russian players’ threats empty, it makes the entire brouhaha about honouring contracts perfectly moot. Not even worthy of academic debate.
Unfair? Why? Can’t the players read what’s written in their contracts, except for the figures signifying their salaries and bonuses? Has anyone been forcing them to play in the NHL or else?
And that the previous CBA was rammed down their throats following a season-killing lockout? Says who? Anybody put guns to their heads to force them to sign on the dotted line?
Speculation (that everyone knows is probably true) The NHLPA is telling Players what to say in their interviews as part of a PR campaign.