Just make sure there is plenty of port and loud black ferraris
Players need to realize their current contract is over. Get past that.
Negotiate your best deal moving forward. If you are concerned with "honoring" contracts then sign a longer CBA this time.
Is there a donation fund set up where we could help the hockey players and their families? Bettman is so misunderstood. I sure am going to miss seeing the Leafs play, if we had a season, inevitably the Canadiens were going to win the Stanley cup.
Their current contracts are not over. A same contract can be subject to 3 CBAs and a Player contract doesn't cease to exist at the end of a CBA. Certain clauses in a new CBA might supersede or affect some clauses of the contract.
What that Adler article tells us is:
1-Once agreed by the players, the Player Contracts already signed will be subject to the new CBA. (everyone knows this)
2-The players should be grateful for the Make Whole provision offered from the League.
Semantics. If there's no CBA, the contract goes away. So you can describe it one way or the other more or less accurately.
It's not semantics. It's erroneous to say that. The contract doesn't go away... Whether you're the owners, the players, the NHL, you don't dispute this. Everyone agrees. It's very basic and has important implications.
The contract goes away if there's no CBA. That's not erroneous. If no CBA gets decided upon, the players don't have a valid contract they can go enforce. Otherwise, hell, the players would be well advised just to insist no CBA got signed and get full value. But that's not how the SPC works.
So if it were possible for the league to resume play with replacement players, existing players could show up and state they're there to continue playing. Do the owners have to honour the contracts?1-The contract doesn't go away if there's no CBA. (NHL and owners don't dispute this)
2. The players still have a contract even if there's no CBA (NHL and owners don't dispute this), the Players can't use the Courts to get their salary provisions enforced.
So if it were possible for the league to resume play with replacement players, existing players could show up and state they're there to continue playing. Do the owners have to honour the contracts?
1-The contract doesn't go away if there's no CBA. (NHL and owners don't dispute this)
2. The players still have a contract even if there's no CBA (NHL and owners don't dispute this), the Players can't use the Courts to get their salary provisions enforced.
If a court won't recognize the contract, then the contract doesn't legally exist.
If a court won't recognize the contract, then the contract doesn't legally exist.
The Courts will absolutely recognize the contract. They'll just say the salary provisions are non-enforceable because of the labor dispute... The contract will become enforceable again if a CBA is signed or if the parties agree to play without a CBA...A contract doesn't disappear and then magically reappear again.
A court will recognize the player contracts still exist. During the lockout neither the NHL or PA can enforce the terms of the contract though. The distinction matters.
Okay. So this is semantics again. It doesn't disappear and then reappear, you say. Instead, it becomes non-enforceable, and then enforceable again under the right conditions. Hooray. Same difference.
Go and tell Shea Weber it doesn't matter if he still has a contract or not. $ 13 Millions this season or $ 0. Semantics. Same difference.
Shea Weber doesn't have a contract until an agreement is in place that validates his contract. Unless this dispute gets resolved, yes, his $13M turns into $0. That's absolutely true. I don't understand why this is so troubling for you. It's not like we disagree on substance.
You're erring again. Whether this dispute gets resolved or not Weber gets his $13M.
Could the owners in some way just throw the players out?
Like just cancel all contracts and release the players?
Starting fresh so to speak.
if the NHL shuts down tomorrow, does Weber get his 13 million? unless we are talking his signing bonus, i dont think he does